Thank you. It’s true that if any of my family Wakes up or Fades... I’m the only one left that they can really turn to.
Maybe I’ll always be the only one left of the five. Who knows? ☺️
please bear with me as this might be a long one,.
the question above has been circulating my mind for a while and i’ve been wondering if there’s anyone that thought the same or done it.. we normally associate shunning and disassociation with jehovah’s witnesses that are normally baptised, but my situation is a reversed one.. i was a bible student that left a long time ago on my own free will, never shunned never ostracised by my jw’s siblings and their families.
the years have passed and situations have arisen that has made me uncomfortable of the knowledge of particular outcomes within my siblings and families.. i’ve been thinking to stay away from my family( living in a different country ), as i don’t want to be preached on or feel out of touch and segregated by their opinions of me and my family.
Thank you. It’s true that if any of my family Wakes up or Fades... I’m the only one left that they can really turn to.
Maybe I’ll always be the only one left of the five. Who knows? ☺️
please bear with me as this might be a long one,.
the question above has been circulating my mind for a while and i’ve been wondering if there’s anyone that thought the same or done it.. we normally associate shunning and disassociation with jehovah’s witnesses that are normally baptised, but my situation is a reversed one.. i was a bible student that left a long time ago on my own free will, never shunned never ostracised by my jw’s siblings and their families.
the years have passed and situations have arisen that has made me uncomfortable of the knowledge of particular outcomes within my siblings and families.. i’ve been thinking to stay away from my family( living in a different country ), as i don’t want to be preached on or feel out of touch and segregated by their opinions of me and my family.
Thank you jws for sharing your story. Enlightening!
thank you to all of you that are challenging my clogs on my way of thinking. 😊
malaise according to the cambridge dictionary:.
a general feeling of being ill or having no energy, or an uncomfortable feeling that something is wrong, especially with society, and that you cannot change the situation.
where the dictionary says society, read "the society"........... is there a malaise in the jw world?
Thank you for clarifying the amount of meetings we had. I never saw it as 5, wasn’t even aware of that. All I knew was “you have to go to the meeting tonight!!”... three repeatedly phrases a week that my sister used to rumble on and on about.
were you so indoctrinated that you just couldn’t leave?
was it due to family pressure?
was it your friendships that you didn’t want to lose?
For me was simple. I was 13, my father had died and I was no longer dragged to meetings and to weekend ministry by my older siblings.
i lived a double standard and felt that I was a sinner and not good enough all the way.
i had to be honest with myself and god... couldn’t carry on being a double agent. This was only because in those days I really needed to fit in...mixed race child living in a crispy white world, already bullied at school... following JWs rules would and did in some instances made life impossible...from teachers to fellow students.
even at that age there was the others double life standards that I noticed. This is my most permanent memory.
How could my family be so nasty at home and so nice in the Hall?
I couldn’t make it if they were nasty or nice. So was an easy choice and I never looked back.
malaise according to the cambridge dictionary:.
a general feeling of being ill or having no energy, or an uncomfortable feeling that something is wrong, especially with society, and that you cannot change the situation.
where the dictionary says society, read "the society"........... is there a malaise in the jw world?
Half Banana FIVE meetings? Wow!
There were three in my days, then Saturday and Sunday ministry. I remember how I used to hide behind whatever I could find when we would knock on people’s houses that used to go to my school.... so terrifying. And my teachers would mark my school tests with a red marker when my answer to the evolution question question started as... If this really happened...ouch... 0% on my school tests score 😤.
Things have changed and I’m glad about it 😊. The more crazy changes the more wake up.
My sister does carts, they studied from tablets and have access to JW.org? What’s this is all about? In my local town...I see JW’s near the carts... no interactivity with the public, they just stand there unless they are approached. On my day we actually pestered people.
But you know what?...More crazy please sir more!!!! Can I please have some more!? 😌
half your children are dead and your still happy?
i have/had a jw friend who has five daughters.. she was a born in as her daughters were also.
two of the daughters are out and have waken up.
Wow. This reminds me of something... I once told my sister that I was glad that one of my nephews had decided to stop studying because at least she could still have a relationship with him and help him out. He was having a hard time.
He still had family around if he was not baptised....she was not happy.
My nephew was asked to leave the family home as he wanted to go out to night clubs and come home late hours. Huh?!?!? Probably not to influence the other four siblings...two baptised, one young child and one student.
So my nephew went to live with his gf....and has since been hopping around with no certain place to live, getting jobs... losing jobs.
How weird... I have children too... mine have done their naughty deeds too.... and trust me.... one has driven me up the walls......BUT never ever I would think of kicking them out for any reason... as my family are all JW’s who would help them?? Live a life without a stable home?! No way!
If I always stay close... I can help, encourage and share with them whatever they need. I think that once anyone has brought children into the world it’s our responsibility until the day we die. This is what I feel and can’t understand otherwise.
has anyone ever been to a jehovah witness social event and you are having a good time till a couple idiots show up and have to twist everything back to the society.
how many pioneers in your cong?.
do you hear about russia?
Reading some of your comments is really making me feel that the invitations to those gatherings that never happened was a good thing! 😊
a few few years ago my brother, now the elder, got married, they had what he described to me a “pioneer wedding”. The congregation was a large one and they wanted to share their happy day with everyone so they asked that instead of gifts, that they would be given financial help or physical help making the wedding come true.
Well.... by that date I had left a long time ago and I was invited, note that my sister the disfellowed was not.. she is now back in the fold as she went back.
i was really impressed that brothers and sisters were so eager to help, making, baking, hairdressing etc etc... WOW... I thought...so much love.
Forward to the wedding day.... all went well, the reception was filled with everything needed.
I had found really hard to look for something to wear that would not put my brother and new wife to shame as a non JW person... last thing I wanted to do.
I must just done my job just right because.... sisters forgot who I was as they openly made awful jokes and comments about the worldly people to each other in my presence. I felt so appalled.
I didn’t understand that these people filled with love could be so filled with excruciating dismay to others.
To me living in a ‘worldly world’ this is not exactly a big deal... but these were God’s flock...chosen to return to earth hopefully to fulfil the paradise. Outrageous I thought!
my brother’s wedding was low in alcohol... I don’t drink at all but I was curious about this... why I asked? He replied that was better this way than to see brothers falling drunk. AGAIN I thought..... God’s flock can’t abstain from it after two glasses and say that is all I’m allowed before gets too much???
i don’t get it! THIS is the flock!
Can’t witnesses see that the organisation is not real?! If you have to pretend to be happy and be someone else, speak bad about others to make yourself feel better and superior to keep a nit connection within your group... this is not the Truth as they put it.
The world is filled of people that judge, that are not exactly good hearted.... but if these people don’t claim to be part of God’s people.....the true religion.....then it’s expected but when you claim that you are following something special and behave in an appalling way... is not the truth. Better to be in the world and live freely.
with all the scandals of the organization, it would .
be sound and logical from a human or strategic viewpoint,.
that they loosen the reins of control and be more honest with its members.
My first thought was....this reminds me of Hitler. After reading some comments I realised that I’m not alone on this. So much has changed in a much strictly way. I remember the days when a disassociate JW was able to stay in the family home and have a relationship with their family. This all has gone nuts and the GB has been at work changing things more and more... more controversial controls.
I hope that many more wake up from this highly controlled religion. I trust that the GB will create much more chaos on their own selfish and greedy ways ......I hope others realise and smell the coffee.
Thank goodness for YouTube and the people’s ability to share their awful experiences. #tonimorris3
please bear with me as this might be a long one,.
the question above has been circulating my mind for a while and i’ve been wondering if there’s anyone that thought the same or done it.. we normally associate shunning and disassociation with jehovah’s witnesses that are normally baptised, but my situation is a reversed one.. i was a bible student that left a long time ago on my own free will, never shunned never ostracised by my jw’s siblings and their families.
the years have passed and situations have arisen that has made me uncomfortable of the knowledge of particular outcomes within my siblings and families.. i’ve been thinking to stay away from my family( living in a different country ), as i don’t want to be preached on or feel out of touch and segregated by their opinions of me and my family.
Hi everyone,
Please bear with me as this might be a long one,
The question above has been circulating my mind for a while and I’ve been wondering if there’s anyone that thought the same or done it.
we normally associate shunning and disassociation with Jehovah’s Witnesses that are normally baptised, but my situation is a reversed one.
i was a bible student that left a long time ago on my own free will, never shunned never ostracised by my JW’s siblings and their families. The years have passed and situations have arisen that has made me uncomfortable of the knowledge of particular outcomes within my siblings and families.
I’ve been thinking to stay away from my family( living in a different country ), as I don’t want to be preached on or feel out of touch and segregated by their opinions of me and my family. To us we are normal people living ordinary lives, nothing special there....but when I meet my family I feel judged and I find myself back to the confined world of JW’s behaviour. Doesn’t feel like I’m me, everything needs to be measured and calculate, ideas, conversions and the most innocent of actions.
I feel that I’m lying and I believe that they don’t know who I am as a person. We don’t seem to connect on anything.... but I have noticed that when we all get together that they have an instant connection, did you hear the new program or have you studied this or the new awake article blah blah. Russia was a huge conversational topic in a very panic way.
So I’ve been thinking to disassociate myself from them. We are not siblings that are connected all the time, sister is a pioneer, busy of course... brother is an elder and brothers wife is also a pioneer also busy.
Parents are long gone, they weren’t witnesses, so we were able to grow and see both worlds, siblings started studying as home life was not a great one.
I’ve started researching more about the witnesses world a good few months ago. And things that I didn’t paid much attention to just came to light....like a lightbulb moment. The hierarchy of the elders families, segregation of poorer families like mine, the invitations for functions that never happened, the gossiping even my clean cut fathers funeral.... my father studied before his death.
my sister in particular is such an intellectual and intelligent woman but this small bubble world has robbed her from who she once was, she lost the ability to rationalise the most simple of things. I then say... actually it’s not that a bigger deal, I’m sure this never rings home though.
So what do you think? Should I ignore my feelings of feeling deceitful a not good enough soul and like we say here in the UK “carry on” or should I act on it for my health and state of mind? Anyone felt like this before? I bet a JW’s has never thought that we can disassociate ourselves from them too.
Thank you in advance for any advice.
i didn't go to the first sunday(7/14/19) meeting discussing "child abuse".
but i did ask a sister who i work with: how did it go at the watchtower study yesterday?
she said: "i cried throughout the meeting".
I’m always appalled to hear these stories, I only studied until I was 13 and then left but my 4 siblings are all Jws.
A while ago my sister whom has 5 kids let her three boys go visit my brother and wife, (who’s now an elder) over summer time for two weeks.
when I asked why my niece didn’t go too, since the ages are similar, she was very shorted answer and just replied that no, she was a girl and would not be going.
I felt weird about this. I started thinking that maybe my sister knows about these cases and doesn’t want my niece into any chance of a line of danger.... but this is our brother, whom she knows well and shares her life with, she’s an intelligent and resourceful woman.
If she knows this things happens in the organisation.... why doesn’t she wake up and leave?
I feel baffled every day, this way of life is just alarming.
Another thing that spiked my thoughts was, years ago when our children were younger they flew over for a visit, I said they could go play, but my sister insisted that no... no boys in girls rooms. The children were only young. I have only girls she has boys and one girl.
All my siblings have horrible lives as Jws......financial problems, stress to comply in case of the young teens and really strained marriages.
I’m blessed that I left, I just wish they left too.