144001 and TD, I'll bet your wives are smart enough to know a good man when they see one!
Posts by 3rdgen
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3rdgen
Define ugly. Don't most humans who have a measure of character eventually see INSIDE a person as well as the superficial? Example: I have a realative who is an incredibly tall,dark and handsome man. Everywhere he goes women shamelessly flirt with him-right in front of his wife. However, he is selfish, abusive, and a misogonist. His wife and most women who KNOW him find him disgusting.
OTOH, we all know of physically unattractive people who are BEAUTIFUL on the inside. Think mother Theresa, Elinor Rosevelt. The same goes for men.
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Breaking News: Neil Armstrong Died Today
by NewChapter inhe was 82, and died from complications of heart surgery he had 3 weeks ago.
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Prognoser,
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Order Conditionally Granting Motion For New Trial As To Punitive Damages Filed in Candace Conti Case
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JT, Diest, and 144000, thank you for the helpful info regarding Ca law. This case will undoutedly set precident for countless others. Like the rest of you I eagerly await the judges response along with that of Mr. Simons.
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Breaking News: Neil Armstrong Died Today
by NewChapter inhe was 82, and died from complications of heart surgery he had 3 weeks ago.
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3rdgen
An amazing and inspiring person. RIP
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ON NOW 20/20 Jaycee Dugard kidnapping by Jehovah's Witness couple the Gulardos -update
by Balaamsass inon right now (possibly on website) jc dugard update.
gulardos were assigned to same hall as current candice conti abuser antioch ca/brentwood, ca hall..
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One of the most horrifing aspects of Jaycee's ordeal is that while Gulardo was in jail for 30 days his Jehovah's Witnesses wife held her captive for him. She is as reprehensible as he is.
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ON NOW 20/20 Jaycee Dugard kidnapping by Jehovah's Witness couple the Gulardos -update
by Balaamsass inon right now (possibly on website) jc dugard update.
gulardos were assigned to same hall as current candice conti abuser antioch ca/brentwood, ca hall..
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One of the most horrifing aspects of Jaycee's ordeal is that while Gulardo was in jail for 30 days his Jehovah's Witnesses wife held her captive for him. She is as reprehensible as he is.
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Were You Punished by Your Government for Not Being a Part of Military Service?
by Diest ini never cease to be amazed by the sacrifice that the wts foolishly requires.
one of the larger sacrifices is that of personal freedom that has been demanded of young men and women around the globe.
many are sent to prison for several years and have a felony on their record for life.
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My uncle did 5 years hard time in prison during WWII. He was a gentle soul and suffered brutal treatment. He was never the same after his release. I'm sure he suffered from PTSD among other serious emotional problems. His younger bro. enlisted and became the family "black sheep".
A number of friends and family went to prision during Viet Nam. However, the conditions were not as bad as during WWII. The ones i knew went to Safford Az where the JWs got to be together and usually went home in 18 months or less. The Lottery saved my 1st hubby. He drew 360 out of 366 in the 1st round. He quit pioneering the next day. LOL
Like someone said, Pioneering helped much more in WWII than Viet Nam to get a minesters classification. I still have the "Consolation" mag from 1941 that listed the names of the brothers who the WTS helped to get their minesters classification. My father, my stepfather, his brother, hubbys uncle etc. etc were all listed.
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In Your Estimation What Percentage Of Witnesses Actually Believe They Have The "Truth"?
by minimus ini think 60% think or hope it's all what it's cracked up to be and the others are just there for different reasons.. what do you think?.
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Outsmarthesystem makes a good point. The vast majority think the WT$ is Gods organization- warts and all. Changing doctrines and harsh control tactics often bother JWs but to leave would mean they left God. They meekly "wait on Jehovah" to set things strait. They don't have to believe everything is true to be the "Truth". This disconnect is evidence of the effectiveness of WT indoctrination. They just have to believe it is the modern day ark, the only way to assure salvation for themselves and those they love.
I am more and more convinced that the GB know that a lot of what they teach is wrong but they don't care. It doesn't matter as long as they can manipulate the flock to stay loyal.(and of course,contribute) Loyality is emphasized over accuracy.
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11-year-old niece was told by JW grandmother that she shouldn't play in band
by keyser soze ini haven't posted here in a while, but i thought this was worth mentioning, and i just wanted to vent about it.. my brother and sister-in-law, who are now divorced, bought my niece a clarinet about a year ago, so she could play in the band at school.
she loves it more than anything in the world.
one day last week, her grandmother found out about this and got all upset about it.
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I agree with Billythex, that the uwritten rules of JWs are inforced at the sole discretion of the Elders of a particular cong. Some Elders are more rigid than others and many have their own opinions which often influence whether they allow something or not.
Generally speaking, most elders allow band, chorus, sports, drama, etc. when it is offered as a school subject during school hours. When it is EXTRA Curricular (sp?) when done AFTER SCHOOL, they highly discourage and somtimes actually forbid. The reasoning is that the child is unecessilarily exposed to "bad associations",competion, patriotic and Holliday music, etc. Of course, the age-old his/her time is better spent in the minestry,studying BS usually comes into play as well.
When I was a JW kid in the '60s I was allowed to take Concert Choir as an elective in both middle and High school. The trouble for me came when the choir performed Christmas and Patriotic songs during the school assemblies. Not being able to participate severly hurt my grade and I ended up dropping out. The band performed at all the football games and because they are after school, the JW kids I knew didn't join.