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  Would like all of your imput on this. Please

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  both reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.

  it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.

  we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.

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  Endofmysteries, exactly
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  Roll call of those of us stuck in for our spouse or whos spouse is still in!

  by BU2B in

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  i just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.

  also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.

  i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.

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  In addition, I stayed with hubby #1 for over 10 years after he was DFed the first time. (yes, there was a second time, I'm a SLOW learner) The marriage was unsustainable but neither of us wanted to be the moving party IOW the "bad guy" to our kids and onlookers. I didn't want to have to make the tough decisions about what would come next like child custody etc. Instead I just PROLONGED the AGONY. Instead of starting over when my kids were little it blew up when they were in their mid teens-sooooo much worse! After surviving the divorce and loosing my kids for a time I realized we were all STRONGER than I had thought. Please don't waste any of your precious lives. BTW, By loose the kids I mean they chose to live with their non-JW father. They were unbaptised pubs but soon left the Borg because dad was smart enough to let them have lots of "worldly" fun yet offered to drop them off at KH if they wanted.
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  Roll call of those of us stuck in for our spouse or whos spouse is still in!

  by BU2B in

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  i just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.

  also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.

  i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.

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  Some of my thoughts...... I was once a staunch JW mom whose 1st husband saw TTATT but stayed in for family and business and to keep me. I realized he didn't believe even tho he only left hints. The effect on me was that even tho I stayed married to him I lost all RESPECT for him. I thought it was HYPOCRITICAL of him to warm the seat at the KH when it was obvious he was somewhere else mentally. It angered me that he was "setting a bad example for the children" by not being gung ho. I HATED it when he would plan fun things to do on Sundays to try to distract me from the meetings- I saw it as being used by Satan to keep me and the kids from everlasting life. In time he was dfed for lying about his adultry and many other vices (I thought he was wrongfully accused) Seeing how hatefully the shunning was carried out by the cong and the family actually helped me think negatively about the borg and draw me closer to him. Had he not been a sociopath we could have made it. LOL Gentlemen, you are not doing your wife and children any favors by faking it. Be loving but firm for your conscience. Give her something to admire and and if she is too blinded to appreciate you then it is her loss-move on. Children would rather be FROM a broken home than IN one.
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  Would like all of your imput on this. Please

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  both reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.

  it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.

  we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.

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  What about leasing out your home for a year while you travel? This would be like a trial run. Furnished homes usually bring much more per month. By doing this you wouldn't be burning any bridges. I agree that your home will continue to appreciate as time goes on and if you own it free and clear the rent should give you a nice positive cash flow even after taxes and insurance. After the 1 year period you would be in a better position to know how things are working out. NEVER sell your real estate unless you absolutely have to.
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  reading COC for the first time

  by This is my tigersuit in

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  T i m Tigersuit, Welcome! I am so glad to see another couple wake up together like hubby and I did. I especially love it when Elders leave. My guess is that you saw and heard things that troubled you but filed those under the catch all "Jehovah will take care of it in his due time" CoC lets the cat out of the bag that the WTBT$ is not and never has been Gods channel. However, before you kick yourself too hard it's good to read Steve Hassan's books about combatting cult mind control. Please read about the B.I.T.E method used by cults and analize whether you were under that influence. Reading his books helped keep us sane during our exit. All the best to you and your wife. Keep us posted on your journey will you?
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  A Mother's Story of loss of her son..............

  by Balsam in

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  some names have been changed or removed to protect those in the family who would not want their names known, or are still active jw's.

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  a mothers regret for a religious devotion.

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  marked
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  "Witness to Murder" an upcoming program on US TV about a JW family will air August 20th...

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  i was informed yesterday that a us cable tv channel named investigation discovery will be broadcasting a 7-part series named "deadly devotion.

  " one program in the series is "witness to murder" which will air wednesday evening, august 20th, probably at 9 p.m. est.

  check the schedule on the internet which lists the date and time of broadcast two-weeks ahead.

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  Thanks, Barbara, Not sure if we get that channel but if not, we'll try Hulu. The book sounds facinating..although tragic.
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  So Happy to Learn About Homemade Weed Killer

  by Iown Mylife in

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  three days ago we mixed up the recipe and sprayed the driveway cracks and several places where the weeds have been hard to get rid of.. today the weeds are dead just like when we've sprayed commercial weed killer.. mix one gallon white vinegar, 1 cup salt, 5 to 6 tablespoons of dawn dishwashing liquid.

  note: don't spray if it's fixin' to rain, wait for dry weather so the stuff will stay on the weeds.

  and don't spray where you want anything to grow ever!.

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  Thanks, can't wait to try these tips!
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  Hello and Thank You!

  by Vintagewife in

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  i've been lurking here for about 3 months and decided it was time to register and become active.

  i left the organization 17 years ago.

  like so many of you, i had endured less than christian behavior from the strong cliches that ran our congregation.

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  Welcome Vintagewife, I'm very glad your ex and his cronies failed to off you. At least that terrible experience led you to see TTATT, get out of the Watchtower and have a decent life. Congrats on your strength and wisdom. Looking forward to hearing more from you.
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  Anyone have archives of talks like "stay alive till 75?"

  by BU2B in

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  i was curious if anyone knew how to listen to talks like sinutkos stay alive to 75, or fred franz talk about how there was no 1st century gb.. i can listen to them on youtube but they are on obviously apostate youtube channels.

  i would like for my wife to hear them but cant do that on apostate youtube channels.. does anyone know if these talks are available in an online archive somewhere else?.

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  As one who was a young adult JW in 1975 I can speak to the excitement and anticipation throughout the whole organization. The written record is in the old publications and epic talks like Sinutco's and others are additional proof of the expectation of the end being BY or BEFORE '75. However, imo these don't adequately describe the atmosphere of the time. For example. we built a house in 1973. By doing that hubby didn't qualify to be a servant because he wasn't "living like the end is near". The book study spent weeks talking about how wicked the Isrealites were for "paneling their houses" A '73 Watchtower had a study article that said since we are so close to the end "not to pioneer if at all possible, is TANTIMOUNT to MURDER". Countless talks were given to postpone having children till after Armageddon, and to postpone marriage if at all possible. To even HINT that MAYBE the end wasn't imminent made you an unfit associate. Now..........................................................fast forward to the 80's and beyond. What gets me the most is that the WTBT$ BLAMED THE FLOCK for listening to them and making life changing decisions based on what THEY said. So the point is not so much being wrong about a date as it is NOT taking responsibllity for the DAMAGE to peoples lives.