Are you kidding me? It's inescapeble unless you are the screwor instead of the screwee. The worst I have witnessed happened to my own elderly mother. She was a born in and baptized in 1937 the year she also started reg and special pioneering. She was still pioneering when she met and married my father in1943. He inherited a large sum of money and continued to grow it until he died and left her a very wealthy woman. During the time he was alive they gave several hundred thousand $$ in gifts to the WBTS$. (of course, Knor and Jaracz loved him) After he died mom continued to donate outragous amounts of $$ while she lived in a tiny duplex. In her late 80's she could no longer live alone but to my surprise, she was BROKE and couldn't pay for a decent rest home. Her last donation to the WTBT$ had been a "conditional loan" of $20,000.00 Hubby wrote a total of 3 letters on her behalf reminding them of the family's generous outright contributions then asked only for that last loan to be repaid as she DESPERATELY needed the money and was suffering from dementia when she gave her last $$ to them. The letters were hand delivered to a member of the GB at the time as well as the service desk. Well you guessed it, they not only refused to pay her back the loan, they refused to say "no" in writing. After calling the service desk several times we got a verbal answer. It was "Get her on public assistance". That, from a filthy rich Borg which pays NO income taxes!!! Is it any wonder that the followers are no different than their leaders?
Posts by 3rdgen
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43Did You Ever Get Screwed By A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus inwitnesses are supposed to be the "most honest people in the world".
most jws i know of do not put business deals in writing.
they simply "trust their brother".
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How do people get out of High control or Religious cult with their mind intact????
by jam inwww.exitsupportnet.com.
walk out, kicked out ,burn out or find out.. interesting read..... it's great we have the support system here.......
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My mind is not intact
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Seattle Convention Videos
by exwhyzee inthis is the link to the website that was set up for the intl.
convention here in seattle the weekend before last.
we went to dinner in the city with family members afterward and saw a lot of old friends.
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Exwhyzee, I understand your op completely. When I couldn't sleep last night I decided to look up a couple of JW families whose names happened to come up at the Apostafest. The newly ex JW is disgusted that these families could rather openly live double lives and never be Publicly Reproved or DFed. Of course the reason is twofold: 1 they have lots of money and 2 they have close family (several) on their Elder body who themselves are shady. Anyway, as I was looking at some of their friends I saw where two couples who I know well were SELECTED to be delagates at Seattle. The funny thing is that one of the wives gets falling down drunk at every party I have ever seen her at and both kids publicly left the borg. (One says she's a Budest on FB) The other exemplary couple? Well, he's never attended enough or cared enough to be appointed a servant. Years ago after the meeting he took his oldest son into the KH library and punched him onto the floor. The fistfight had to be broken up. That son is no longer a JW. (what a shock) His wife is a nutjob but she dresses in expensive (thousands of ##) Designer clothes. Again, both couples have many close family Elders who shield them. Like you, my reaction was a little meloncholy and I had a hard time understanding why. I've decided it has to do with my sense of justice and fairness which is completely absent in the Borg. I t's all about how well conected you are and how much you can pay to stay that way. I truely don't miss the hypocracy.
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Did You Ever Get Screwed By A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus inwitnesses are supposed to be the "most honest people in the world".
most jws i know of do not put business deals in writing.
they simply "trust their brother".
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My frist email letter from my JW Dad. So sad...
by suavojr ini am in my early 30s and woke up to ttatt in late 2012. my dad just turned 65 in june!
wow, i never saw that being possible.. .
he just got himself a computer and was able to get internet in a remote location where he is serving as an elder with my mom (where the need is great) i was happy to see how he was able to send me a few notes saying hi and i was able to share some pictures of my wife and family, etc.. .
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Wow! It's like two people wrote that letter. His authentic self: "Hi kiddo, how are things going?" The cult brainwashed robot: (the sermon that followed). Not a word about his grandchildren? Amaaaaaaazing and pathetic. Just so you have a ray of hope: Hubby and I didn't wake up till we were about 60.(He was also a former Bethelite and Elder) We just returned from the Tahoe Apostafest and met several more former Elders who woke up in their 60's, one was just out and appeared to be over 70!!! You never know what is bothering a JW because a "good" one won't say it out loud or even to himself. However, there is usually a "last straw" and it is different for everybody. I guess what I'm saying is it is still possible for them to change but it will take more humility than they are currently showing.
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What was the Overall reaction from the world media ,to the Awake article ,may 22nd 1994 regarding "Youths Who Died Refusing Blood".
by smiddy ini , and my wife had probably left about 12 months prior to this magazine coming out , and i never at that time had any knowledge of it till many years later when i joined this site.. when i did see it , i was appalled that they could put out such an article , in a magazine they would distribute throughout the world .. to me it smacked of child abuse .
these were kids , who had no life experiences , who were far too young to make life or death choices of their own , were influenced by religous leaders who had their own agenda , and sadly by family , relatives and freinds who were indoctrinated by a man made religion that has its roots in america in the late 1800`s .. so my question is , did this episode of child abuse go under the radar of mainstream media ?
did it escape child protection agencies of the time ?.
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At the time that magazine came out I had two pre-teen children. I was very busy doing my mom thing, dance lessons, slumber parties, play dates, school projects etc etc. Add to that, meetings FS, absentee husband, in-law problems, I was too distracted to really process the horror of that ragazine. BUT... I do remember CHOOSING not to use it in FS and CHOOSING to ignore the Cognitive Dissonance it produced in me. Like most JW's I coped by staying busy NOT THINKING.
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We are an Evil Aposta-Family
by Skinnedsheep inin the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.
it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.
we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.
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Hi Skinnedsheep, Hubby and I are very glad you are no longer "stuckinamovement"! We looked for you every day at the Tahoe meet up. Really hope you can make it next year. You are wise not to define your family by Watchtower standards. Congratulations on sucessfully leaving this destructive cult!
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Would like all of your imput on this. Please
by Still Totally ADD inboth reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
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Endofmysteries, exactly
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Roll call of those of us stuck in for our spouse or whos spouse is still in!
by BU2B ini just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.
also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.
i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.
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In addition, I stayed with hubby #1 for over 10 years after he was DFed the first time. (yes, there was a second time, I'm a SLOW learner) The marriage was unsustainable but neither of us wanted to be the moving party IOW the "bad guy" to our kids and onlookers. I didn't want to have to make the tough decisions about what would come next like child custody etc. Instead I just PROLONGED the AGONY. Instead of starting over when my kids were little it blew up when they were in their mid teens-sooooo much worse! After surviving the divorce and loosing my kids for a time I realized we were all STRONGER than I had thought. Please don't waste any of your precious lives. BTW, By loose the kids I mean they chose to live with their non-JW father. They were unbaptised pubs but soon left the Borg because dad was smart enough to let them have lots of "worldly" fun yet offered to drop them off at KH if they wanted.
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Roll call of those of us stuck in for our spouse or whos spouse is still in!
by BU2B ini just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.
also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.
i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.
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Some of my thoughts...... I was once a staunch JW mom whose 1st husband saw TTATT but stayed in for family and business and to keep me. I realized he didn't believe even tho he only left hints. The effect on me was that even tho I stayed married to him I lost all RESPECT for him. I thought it was HYPOCRITICAL of him to warm the seat at the KH when it was obvious he was somewhere else mentally. It angered me that he was "setting a bad example for the children" by not being gung ho. I HATED it when he would plan fun things to do on Sundays to try to distract me from the meetings- I saw it as being used by Satan to keep me and the kids from everlasting life. In time he was dfed for lying about his adultry and many other vices (I thought he was wrongfully accused) Seeing how hatefully the shunning was carried out by the cong and the family actually helped me think negatively about the borg and draw me closer to him. Had he not been a sociopath we could have made it. LOL Gentlemen, you are not doing your wife and children any favors by faking it. Be loving but firm for your conscience. Give her something to admire and and if she is too blinded to appreciate you then it is her loss-move on. Children would rather be FROM a broken home than IN one.