Posts by 3rdgen

The important thing to remember: Regardless what brand of watch he's wearing his suit matches his Bible perfectly. The question is: Did Sam order a suit made to match the nu Bible? Or did he already have the suit and order the matching leather for the Bibles?

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Elders refused to help police investigation into the rape of a teenage girl

by Gadget in

church leaders refused to co-operate with a police investigation into a sex attack by one of their congregation on a teenage girl.. jehovahs witness paul atkin has now been jailed for five years after he admitted sexual activity with a 15-year-old.. a court heard the south shields based branch of the church carried out their own investigation after the allegation came to light and atkin was booted out.. but when police came knocking, church officials refused to help what was then a rape allegation, on the grounds of confidentiality.. prosecutor deborah smith told newcastle crown court: it would appear there was some form of investigation by the church.. we know the defendant was disfellowshipped as a consequence of that investigation but there has been no disclosure of any minutes of meetings with the defendant and the elders have refused to provide statements to the police, despite the fact the defendant is no longer a member of their congregation, on the grounds of confidentiality.. atkin, of east moffat street, south shields, was initially accused of rape but the charge was dropped when he admitted sexual activity with a child.. the court heard his victim was 15-and-a-half when he had sex with her.. miss smith said: she did not wish to have sexual intercourse with him.. the crown accept, having discussed matters with her, the defendant may reasonably have believed that she did.. she did not fight back or shout out at the time of the incident.. the court heard the woman is still on anti-depressants and says her self confidence has been shattered by the ordeal.. in a statement read to the court, the victim, who is now an adult, said: this has had a major effect on me and i cannot trust men.. i bottled everything up and as a teenager i turned to drink and drugs.. i hope he gets sent to prison and gets what he deserves.. judge simon hickey jailed atkin for five years and said he must sign the sex offenders register for life and abide by the terms of a sexual offences prevention order for five years.. the judge told him: this has had a huge effect upon this young lady.. gavin doig, defending, said atkin has a good, supportive family and partner and said his family describe him as a hard working man with a job who will face devastating consequences if sent to jail.. he added that it was atkin himself who had brought the matter to the attention of police.. mr doig told the court: this defendant made a very bad mistake a number of years ago.

he has not made any further mistakes.. he is extremely sorry he committed this offence knowing, as he did, the complainant was under age.. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/south-shields-jehovahs-witness-jailed-8567927.

3rdgen

'She did not fight back or shout out at the time of the incident.'

Well, there you have it. No struggle no rape. What, are we living in the thirteenth century?

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Musical video on JW-TV February monthly program - must see !!

by Viva la Vida in

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you must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.

at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...

3rdgen

The wheels on the cart go round and round

round and round

round and round............

I wish I were the cart that lives in Venice, Ca. I dig lookin' at those gnarly surfer dudes!

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Translating and deciphering witness expressions.

by stuckinarut2 in

i wanted to start a thread with correct explanations of what witnesses really mean when they say stuff... please add to it!.

"we missed you at the last meeting" = "where were you?

why did you miss a meeting!?".

3rdgen

Letter from the CO read to the congregation: "I have appointed Bro. So and So Elder/MS" = Gotta problem? Sue the CO's ass. Hahaha he's broke! (scorched earth)

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Have JW relatives disinherited you? (especially Canadian)

by berrygerry in

interesting court case whereby the entire will was declared void because the father was racist.. would that not also apply to jw's who disinherit their non-jw family?.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/29/judge-rejects-ontario-mans-racist-will-that-disinherited-daughter-for-having-bastard-white-son/.

3rdgen

Under the radar, I'm all for preserving freedom including the right to include or exclude people and organizations in one's will. However, the pertinent issue is :

Is the WTBT$ exerting strong encouragement for the members to leave some or all of their estates to them?

Are they encouraging "alienation of affection" of family members by their policies on shunning and labeling those who left or never were JWs?

Do they hound the elderly who often are no longer "sound of mind" for large donations which in turn depletes the estate? "

My daughter and I lost a family fortune (about 10mil) because Mom gave it all to the WTBT$ while still alive. I have an Great Aunt who left a 1mill+a year oil well to WTBT$ and nothing to her children. Hubby has a childless aunt who has willed her entire estate of over 1mil to the WTBT$. That's just our family!

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To Blue Dot or Not to Blue Dot. That is the question ....

by Oubliette in

so i've been noticing recently that some khs in the area where i live (socal) are putting up the jw.org little blue dot, but others are not.

i would think this would be a mandatory directive from hq.

does anyone here have any intel on the matter?.

3rdgen

"The cost of purchasing and installing signs featuring the logo should be met from local congregation funds."

IOW Don't expect the WTBT$ to contribute a nickel for this swanky new branding.

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exJW Psychology 103--Let's Reconsider "Confidentiality"

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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over the course of decades as a jw, an elder, a bethelite, then learning ttatt and wanting to leave, i'd collected a lot of insight into the power of "confidentiality.

" although the confidentiality in a judicial hearing is supposedly to protect the sinner, in actuality, i saw that it was about control and was protecting the power of the jc.. i didn't use any of this knowledge until i was called before the boe because the other elders figured they had grounds to remove me as an elder.

it was a work situation that only lasted a matter of hours, but it was enough that they seized the moment.

3rdgen

Billy, thanks for referring to this thread on another one. I had missed it. Hubby and I agree that the confidentiality mandate is designed for the protection of the elders. Why else would they refuse to let the accused record JCs? They scatter like cockroaches when you shine a light on them.