Xan, what a perfect response to her attempt at "encouragement". If anyone ever gives me a "Return" brochure I promise to do as you did!
So far not even my closest family has bothered. They prefer to shun instead.
Posts by 3rdgen
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9She sent me 'Return to Jehovah' I sent her a Christmas card
by Xanthippe init just felt so good to say to a jw i don't feel the guilt this booklet says i must be feeling.
i don't feel guilty for having a great big christmas tree or letting my daughter have birthdays, easter eggs, dress up at halloween, have sleepovers and friends, i told her.
i only feel guilty about not contributing to live aid and bandaid and giving the money to a cult instead.
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"For sale: baby shoes, never worn"
by Simon inif you've never come across the above title before, it's considered to be the shortest novel possible.
a story, possibly a moving one, in just 6 words attributed to earnest hemingway.. it started a genre called "flash fiction" which is a memoir in six-words.. what would yours be?.
indoctrinated child found freedom, love, family.
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Good books to read?
by thedepressedsoul ini read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?
" does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?
i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!
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My favorite book of all time: "The Sneetches and other Stories" by Dr Suess. All I need to know about human nature is contained therein. No kidding! -
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LOL I assume your friend is an EX JW? or a Star Wars fan or both?
If those critters are going to peddle the Awake they need to shave!
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The watchtowers view on Rape!!! must see
by Khaleesi inthis person did a great job putting this together... i am disgusted with wt policies & them acting both judge & jurywatch "noonespecial - rapists - jw" on .
youtube.
https://youtu.be/lwufz7gyozm.
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Hubby bought me a small container of pepper spray that attaches to my key chain. It is bright pink! I keep it visible wherever i go. -
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The watchtowers view on Rape!!! must see
by Khaleesi inthis person did a great job putting this together... i am disgusted with wt policies & them acting both judge & jurywatch "noonespecial - rapists - jw" on .
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https://youtu.be/lwufz7gyozm.
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When i was about 12 my father gave me the whole discourse about WTBT$ (meaning God's) view of rape. That unless I scream and fight till death I am guilty of fornication.
I was horrified and never really loved this Jehovah person the same again. The talk had it's desired effect though, it made a fearful and compliant child even more so.
BTW, my father waited until AFTER I was baptized to give me the talk!
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Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized
by ILoveTTATT2 inhi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
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1: born in- 3rd gen
2: publisher 1958 age 6 baptized 1964 age 12
3: learned ttatt from the internet 2011
I was serious from the time i became a publisher so i would count 53 years or 47 from baptism. Yup, wasted 3/4 of my life.
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Everybody loves Raymond
by Saintbertholdt ina while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".
the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.
by nature i am an iconoclast.
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Just a few random thoughts.........
When hubby (now an avid "Apostate) first was leaving Watchtower he was heavily critical of RF. He thought that Ray didn't push hard enough against his uncle and the others who opposed reform of the WBT$.
My reply to that was: "What did you expect ONE man to do?" He was outnumbered. Had Ray's ideas of a kinder, more gentle Borg been permanently embraced I'm not sure he or I would have left so I'm glad it went down the way it did. If Ray hadn't been motivated to write COC (regardless of his motives) how many of us would have known about the Mexico/Malawi scandal? That alone was enough for me to realize there was NO Holy Spirit operating on the Borg.
Another thought regarding RF taking all of the correspondence and docs that he did: I was going through my elderly mothers pictures and keepsakes I found letters form the WTBT$ going back to the year 1941. She saved EVERYTHING with a Watchtower letterhead as it is practically sacred to her. Even when she received an unfavorable (to her) answer from them, she kept it. I think RF may have simply saved all things Watchtower related.
In any case, I agree with those who think it really doesn't matter what Ray's motives were in writing COC I'm just glad he did. As far as ISOCF goes I have never bothered to read it. The mental freedom I gained from reading his first book led me to do enough research not to want or need the crutch of "belief".
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Seems like the perfect holiday for j-dubs
by rebel8 inif this article is correct, (american) thanksgiving's origins have several things j-dubs love.
the xian god.
genocide of nonbelievers that included men, women and children alike.
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I agree that the WTBT$ prohibits Thanksgiving in order to keep the RandF separate from their "worldly" families. Even though the excuse they officially give is that it is a political US holiday.
It is ironic that when most or all of a particular family are JWs they DO get together, give thanks and eat turkey that weekend. Instead of Thursday it is usually on Fri or Sat. Now that hubby and I have faded we are no longer invited to the family psudo-Thanksgiving. I would be lying if I didn't admit I miss the fun I used to have with them.
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Are there any ex-missionaries here??
by fulano ini have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.
and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.
ere other experiences?
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My aunt met her husband while attending the 3rd class of Gilead around 1949 or 50. They were assigned to the Dominican. They weren't there very long before then president Trujillo placed JWs under ban. All the missionaries were sent to Puerto Rico.
My aunt fell in love with the people and culture of PR. She had a strong extravert personality which appearently was well suited for missionary life. For all I know SHE was the one driving everyone nuts at the missionary home! (she was definitely kooky)
After about 6 years in the missionary work. My aunt had her first baby. She loved the country so much they stayed a couple more years until she became pregant with her second child. My aunt and uncle settled in Torrance Ca. and joined the Spanish cong. For a brief time while their 3 kids were growing up they went back to English hoping the kids would become better indoctrinated. I don't think the kids cared one way or the other.
Once the kids were out of HS back to Spanish they went. When her hubby died in the eighties she moved to northern Ca to be closer to her family yet, she never went back to an English cong. She was such an zealous enthusiastic loving person (polar opposite of my mother). At the end of her life she had started so many Bible studies that they formed a Spanish cong in her town which met in her home.
Such a waste of her life. Her oldest child now in late 50's has never been baptized. the youngest has been Dfed and in and out all her life. The middle child has sorta stayed in but never ever pioneered or been a MS. Private Reproof from time to time. Gotta hand it to my aunt though, she never ever said an unkind or unfavorable remark about her children and NEVER shunned them. :)