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  Tv's in Kingdom hall

  by dothemath in

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  2. beliefs

  so now that the borg has taken all of the congregations money, there was just a resolution to get all new tv's, etc for the stage for the new meeting format.. i wasn't there, but it was a large sum.

  somebody mentioned over 3000$.. all the congregations in the city are likely doing the same thing, and are getting all the equipment from bethel.. i was wondering if this was happening all most everywhere?.

  can't see it in third world countries( might not even have internet).

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  Sparrow, so true. Instead of being put to sleep by lousy local speakers dubs will be dozing to the lousy speakers from Beth-Hell. :)
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  She sent me 'Return to Jehovah' I sent her a Christmas card

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it just felt so good to say to a jw i don't feel the guilt this booklet says i must be feeling.

  i don't feel guilty for having a great big christmas tree or letting my daughter have birthdays, easter eggs, dress up at halloween, have sleepovers and friends, i told her.

  i only feel guilty about not contributing to live aid and bandaid and giving the money to a cult instead.

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  Xan, what a perfect response to her attempt at "encouragement". If anyone ever gives me a "Return" brochure I promise to do as you did!

  So far not even my closest family has bothered. They prefer to shun instead.
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  "For sale: baby shoes, never worn"

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you've never come across the above title before, it's considered to be the shortest novel possible.

  a story, possibly a moving one, in just 6 words attributed to earnest hemingway.. it started a genre called "flash fiction" which is a memoir in six-words.. what would yours be?.

  indoctrinated child found freedom, love, family.

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  Left cult, started life at sixty.
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  " does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  My favorite book of all time: "The Sneetches and other Stories" by Dr Suess. All I need to know about human nature is contained therein. No kidding!
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  Pic on FB

  by InChristAlone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so one of my facebook friends posted this today.. .

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  LOL I assume your friend is an EX JW? or a Star Wars fan or both?

  If those critters are going to peddle the Awake they need to shave!
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  The watchtowers view on Rape!!! must see

  by Khaleesi in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this person did a great job putting this together... i am disgusted with wt policies & them acting both judge & jurywatch "noonespecial - rapists - jw" on .

  youtube.

  https://youtu.be/lwufz7gyozm.

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  Hubby bought me a small container of pepper spray that attaches to my key chain. It is bright pink! I keep it visible wherever i go.
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  The watchtowers view on Rape!!! must see

  by Khaleesi in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this person did a great job putting this together... i am disgusted with wt policies & them acting both judge & jurywatch "noonespecial - rapists - jw" on .

  youtube.

  https://youtu.be/lwufz7gyozm.

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  When i was about 12 my father gave me the whole discourse about WTBT$ (meaning God's) view of rape. That unless I scream and fight till death I am guilty of fornication.

  I was horrified and never really loved this Jehovah person the same again. The talk had it's desired effect though, it made a fearful and compliant child even more so.

  BTW, my father waited until AFTER I was baptized to give me the talk!
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  1: born in- 3rd gen

  2: publisher 1958 age 6 baptized 1964 age 12

  3: learned ttatt from the internet 2011

  I was serious from the time i became a publisher so i would count 53 years or 47 from baptism. Yup, wasted 3/4 of my life.
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  Everybody loves Raymond

  by Saintbertholdt in

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  2. scandals

  a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".

  the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.

  by nature i am an iconoclast.

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  Just a few random thoughts.........

  When hubby (now an avid "Apostate) first was leaving Watchtower he was heavily critical of RF. He thought that Ray didn't push hard enough against his uncle and the others who opposed reform of the WBT$.

  My reply to that was: "What did you expect ONE man to do?" He was outnumbered. Had Ray's ideas of a kinder, more gentle Borg been permanently embraced I'm not sure he or I would have left so I'm glad it went down the way it did. If Ray hadn't been motivated to write COC (regardless of his motives) how many of us would have known about the Mexico/Malawi scandal? That alone was enough for me to realize there was NO Holy Spirit operating on the Borg.

  Another thought regarding RF taking all of the correspondence and docs that he did: I was going through my elderly mothers pictures and keepsakes I found letters form the WTBT$ going back to the year 1941. She saved EVERYTHING with a Watchtower letterhead as it is practically sacred to her. Even when she received an unfavorable (to her) answer from them, she kept it. I think RF may have simply saved all things Watchtower related.

  In any case, I agree with those who think it really doesn't matter what Ray's motives were in writing COC I'm just glad he did. As far as ISOCF goes I have never bothered to read it. The mental freedom I gained from reading his first book led me to do enough research not to want or need the crutch of "belief".
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  Seems like the perfect holiday for j-dubs

  by rebel8 in

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  2. friends

  if this article is correct, (american) thanksgiving's origins have several things j-dubs love.

  the xian god.

  genocide of nonbelievers that included men, women and children alike.

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  I agree that the WTBT$ prohibits Thanksgiving in order to keep the RandF separate from their "worldly" families. Even though the excuse they officially give is that it is a political US holiday.

  It is ironic that when most or all of a particular family are JWs they DO get together, give thanks and eat turkey that weekend. Instead of Thursday it is usually on Fri or Sat. Now that hubby and I have faded we are no longer invited to the family psudo-Thanksgiving. I would be lying if I didn't admit I miss the fun I used to have with them.