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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  Then it had no clear direction and defined nothing.
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  Bohm, immigration is not a women's issue. If I was planning a women's march I would have a clear theme and stick to a single topic. But that's me. BTW, just because I'm a woman who is pro-choice does not mean I'm a liberal..
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  Furthermore: I don't consider myself a member of the left or right. I prefer to weigh things issue by issue. Likeability is not a requirement for a person to be able to accomplish a task or perform a duty. IE; I would much rather have dinner with Obama than Trump (how come neither have asked me?) but I am not better off now than I was 8 years ago. I dare say neither are minorities even though the message was HOPE. Well, faith and hope don't don't pay the rent, do they?

  Simon is right when he said Trump and the republicans did not win this election. With him as their candidate, it was the Democrat's to lose..... and they did. Hopefully Trump, despite his verbal diarrhea, will do some good.
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  At the risk of being viewed as anti- feminist, (which is completely untrue) I have to say the op has raised a valid question. IMHO, the theme of the march was FEAR. Fear that the Trump admin. will dismantle or erode the rights women have fought for and achieved. Ok, fine but at least admit that FEAR is the driving force.

  If they would have called it the "FEAR of ROW V. WADE REVERSAL" I might be inclined to participate myself. But the fabric vaginas and stupid ass signs do not invite serious discussion or dignity and respect for REAL and VALID womens issues.
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  Paul did not belittle women

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
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  i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.

  the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.

  he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.

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  If God inspired the Bible, why didn't he prevent confusion as to exactly what the message is. Why would he allow passages or books to be included that don't belong?
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  Wife is Awake

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
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  following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

  i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

  i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

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  As a wife who was helped to start waking up by her husband, I agree that a JW usually has to become angry about something/s in order to even THINK about hearing/reading anything critical of the borg. Finding the trigger is the key.

  All my life I had seen and experienced unloving and unjust behavior by elders/servants but it wasn't until OTHER close family members were terribly mistreated that my blood started to boil enough to take an honest look at my religion. Hubby waited patiently and asked me viewpoint questions rather than TELL me facts.
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  Wife is Awake

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
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  following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

  i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

  i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

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  Freemind, What wonderful news! Both you and Stuck are reaping the rewards of your patience. It is also a testament to your wives humility. Proud people seldom can admit they were fooled. Cheers!!!
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  baptised nearly 51 years

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been reading this site for awhile now.

  i have had a long and often tragic life as a jw.

  my story is so long because i'm pretty old :) i feel sad i've been locked in fear and guilt for my entire life.

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  Welcome, Phoebe! Your story moved me so much. Like you, I was "born in". I was baptized a few days after I turned 12. (Jan.1964 ) My family on both sides were part of this toxic organization since about 1900

  My father was a "Colporter", a "Special Pioneer", a "Congregation Servant" (PO/COBE before the elder arrangement) and an abusive alcoholic. Like you, my first memory is being terrified, In my case, I was about 3 yo, uncontrollably sobbing during the dark car ride home from the KH where I had wiggled in my seat. My father had pointed his finger at me and whispered you're going to "get it" when we get home! I knew the beating with his belt that awaited me. My mother was silent as he would shout, "hush up or the beating will be worse". I also remember crouching in my room praying for Jehovah to help me when the fighting between my parents was unbearable.

  It's not that other unfortunate children haven't experienced these difficulties, it's that this horrible home life is compounded by having to be JW in school. The weirdo who isn't allowed to be like the other kids because GOD HATES everybody and everything that isn't JW. A child should not have to be afraid of abuse and abandonment. I too, have PTSD. Isn't it ironic that an organization which attracts/causes so much pathology strongly discourages therapy? What are they afraid we will discover? Could it be they want us to remain terrified, compliant, and gullible?

  Congratulations on your hubby and children being out. At least you don't have them shunning you! Congratulations too, on finding this site. I know the people and ideas here will be of great support and comfort to you. Keep reading, posting, and be assured of our love.
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  Mom died, How and When I found out

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi friends,.

  it's been awhile since i've been talkative.

  thought i'd give you an account of my latest family dysfunction.. a brief backstory is that i am an only child whose parents were born in jw's.

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  Doc, Thanks for your kind thoughts. I am glad to be part of this family for so many reasons. You are one of the many people I would love to meet and "adopt" as replacement family.
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  Mom died, How and When I found out

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi friends,.

  it's been awhile since i've been talkative.

  thought i'd give you an account of my latest family dysfunction.. a brief backstory is that i am an only child whose parents were born in jw's.

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  LV101, "I feel for the caregivers dealing with her" No kidding! We got more than one frantic message from the rest home saying the nurses were in tears after dealing with my mom. They ended up kicking her out to a tougher place. Thanks for your sympathy, you have mine. Hugs

  FLIPPER Thanks for your input. After meeting your dad (even though he was on his best behavior) I could recognize the JW arrogance in him. Sorry you can relate to my story. I haven't seen or heard from anyone in my family in over 8 years except my daughter and the lame "your mom died" message left from my aunt.

  IF they couldn't bother telling me when and where they were having mom's JW informercial/memorial then I couldn't bother to attend. So glad your mom's was better.

  DISSE"D LADY2, "You cannot have a proper parent/child relationship with robots." SOOOO TRUE!! Sorry you know how I feel. Hugs back to you.