a bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a jw, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a wt or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. well, anyways i was there and so was my jw mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything jw related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how i am an evil sinner, or how i've escaped the org by avoiding df'ing, right?
wrong, as i'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- i have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like i remember?
) so she isn't someone i was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. to give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy jw's.. she claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or gb talks, etc.
I am very sorry for your loss and the dreadful krazy sister's emotional assault on you at the funeral. She makes the occasion about HER, then blames her hysterics on YOU. "I have been crying hysterically since I heard you left Jehovah".
it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
Simon, this (points up) Is probably your best post ever. Hubby and I were victims of not one but 2 illegal foreclosures during the Obama admin. We waited for Heads to roll, CEO's to be imprisoned, or at the very least fired and for reform. Ha!
it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
Bohm, My daughter is single, in her early 30's, college educated, and has a 6 figure income. She told me ahead of time that she was going to be at the Women's Parade in LA. She stated that she wanted to lend her support for Women's rights. Although we disagree on many political issues, I gave her an "atta girl" for being willing to march for what she believes.(and her right to believe it)
Then I saw the pictures she posted on Instagram and I had to chuckle. There she was, on top of a roof with a ridiculous sign standing next to a woman who was completely topless.Was she opposing the objectifying of women? Haha How can I take that seriously? She and her totally cool Hollywood friends had a great time in the fresh air and sunshine doin' crazy shit. I wish I was young and knew what I know now! :)
it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
Bohm, immigration is not a women's issue. If I was planning a women's march I would have a clear theme and stick to a single topic. But that's me. BTW, just because I'm a woman who is pro-choice does not mean I'm a liberal..
it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
Furthermore: I don't consider myself a member of the left or right. I prefer to weigh things issue by issue. Likeability is not a requirement for a person to be able to accomplish a task or perform a duty. IE; I would much rather have dinner with Obama than Trump (how come neither have asked me?) but I am not better off now than I was 8 years ago. I dare say neither are minorities even though the message was HOPE. Well, faith and hope don't don't pay the rent, do they?
Simon is right when he said Trump and the republicans did not win this election. With him as their candidate, it was the Democrat's to lose..... and they did. Hopefully Trump, despite his verbal diarrhea, will do some good.
it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
At the risk of being viewed as anti- feminist, (which is completely untrue) I have to say the op has raised a valid question. IMHO, the theme of the march was FEAR. Fear that the Trump admin. will dismantle or erode the rights women have fought for and achieved. Ok, fine but at least admit that FEAR is the driving force.
If they would have called it the "FEAR of ROW V. WADE REVERSAL" I might be inclined to participate myself. But the fabric vaginas and stupid ass signs do not invite serious discussion or dignity and respect for REAL and VALID womens issues.
i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.
the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.
he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.
If God inspired the Bible, why didn't he prevent confusion as to exactly what the message is. Why would he allow passages or books to be included that don't belong?
As a wife who was helped to start waking up by her husband, I agree that a JW usually has to become angry about something/s in order to even THINK about hearing/reading anything critical of the borg. Finding the trigger is the key.
All my life I had seen and experienced unloving and unjust behavior by elders/servants but it wasn't until OTHER close family members were terribly mistreated that my blood started to boil enough to take an honest look at my religion. Hubby waited patiently and asked me viewpoint questions rather than TELL me facts.
Freemind, What wonderful news! Both you and Stuck are reaping the rewards of your patience. It is also a testament to your wives humility. Proud people seldom can admit they were fooled. Cheers!!!