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  does anybody remember "marking?"

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  for a while there was this arrangement, based on 2thess:3:14, wherby a talk was given on the service meeting describing a dangerous influence in the congregation, and reference was made to that scripture, thereby indicating to the congregation that this threat exists here, and that you should distance yourselves from anybody fitting that description.

  frankly, it bothered me because even if somebody didn't know who was really being referred to, they felt like they might, so the congregation formed little fractures of suspicion.

  i wrote to the society because of this divisive effect (that i'm sure wasn't the intended effect; creating a phantom "marked man," breaking up the unity in the cong...etc.).

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  Also, around 1989 I was in a cong who's P.O. happened to be my uncle. He was a stern, self-righteous, by-the-book, ass****. He also gave a marking talk naming the first and last names of 2 brothers who were young teens. The talk included details of what they were accused of: kid stuff, dress, grooming, etc.

  Their mother and father were exceptionally sweet people who were so crushed over the matter that they changed congregations. I heard later, they all quit. Yeaaaaa!

  Thanks, Uncle Frank, you DFed, reproved, marked, counseled, dozens of Dubs right out of the Borg.
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  does anybody remember "marking?"

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for a while there was this arrangement, based on 2thess:3:14, wherby a talk was given on the service meeting describing a dangerous influence in the congregation, and reference was made to that scripture, thereby indicating to the congregation that this threat exists here, and that you should distance yourselves from anybody fitting that description.

  frankly, it bothered me because even if somebody didn't know who was really being referred to, they felt like they might, so the congregation formed little fractures of suspicion.

  i wrote to the society because of this divisive effect (that i'm sure wasn't the intended effect; creating a phantom "marked man," breaking up the unity in the cong...etc.).

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  Back in the early 1980s 2 of my nephews (through marriage) were 11 and 13 years old when they suffered through their parents' bitter divorce, and were kidnapped and taken out of the USA by their mother. It was over 3 years before the FBI returned them to their father and stepmother who were active JWs

  Now at ages 14 and 16 surprise surprise, they had emotional problems. One day they took BB guns and shot out the glass from some lights attached to a fence around a nearby subdivision. They were caught and sentenced to pay restitution and do community service. (appropriate right?)

  Once the elders in their tiny town found out they announced both of their names as being marked followed by a talk describing what they did. The instruction at the time was to treat those marked as though they were disfellowshipped.

  It backfired on the congregation because the counselors at their school were angered that boys who clearly needed therapy were not only NOT getting it, but now being ostracized as well. Soon after they were finally reinstated by the congregation, the policy of shunning was replaced with non-socializing, which is nearly as bad.
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  Worst Fire in California history

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  52,000 people are evacuated.

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  Thanks, Everyone for your thoughts, videos, and updates. As has been mentioned, the southern part of our state is on fire as well. The air quality is abysmal.

  President Trump, Jerry Brown, and the Govenor Elect came to Paradise this morn to access the damage and plan strategies for assistance.

  I want to clarify something I said in my OP when I said I hope the KH burns down. I meant that if hundreds of homes and businesses are on fire then I see no reason why the KH should be spared. I did NOT mean ANY harm to come to JW's themselves. Watchtower owns all of the KH's these days, The least they could do is pick up the tab for rebuilding a new Kindumb Haul. It turns out that There are 2 KHs, one destroyed and the other damaged. No angelic protection!
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  Worst Fire in California history

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  in terms of destruction.

  52,000 people are evacuated.

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  OMG Now there are 23 confirmed fatalities.
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  Worst Fire in California history

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  52,000 people are evacuated.

  started thurs.

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  HI GIRL: Glad to know you're ok and picture where you live. My daughter and Fiance' live in LA near Glendale. Maybe we can meet someday. Annnd there's the Tahoefest next summer. It would be so cool if you could come.
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  Worst Fire in California history

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  in terms of destruction.

  52,000 people are evacuated.

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  DAYS OF FUTURE: I know what you mean about the smoke. Hubby and my allergies kicked up something fierce for many weeks. The ash stays on the plants even after the smoke clears.
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  Worst Fire in California history

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  in terms of destruction.

  52,000 people are evacuated.

  started thurs.

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  TOTALLY ADD: Thanks for your kind thoughts. We had it easy compared to the Town of Paradise.

  FLIPPER: Hi Friend! Thanks for your post. Wow, I'm so glad Mr. and Mrs. FLipper Jr. were not affected. What an amazing Video. There have been so many harrowing accounts of people barely escaping with their lives.

  Can you imagine the young school children have no schools? Only the High school survived. Where will they go?There is virtually no Downtown. No supermarket, no drug stores, veterinarian, What do they come home to?

  My hairdresser lost her home and possessions even the swimming pool in the Carr fire in July. They STILL cant start rebuilding after 7 inspections. They will be living in a camper for over a year!
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  Worst Fire in California history

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in terms of destruction.

  52,000 people are evacuated.

  started thurs.

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  Hi everyone,

  Just back from work, couldn't answer till now.

  BIAHI: I think the Girl next Door lives farther South from me. You see there have been at least 3 record-breaking destructive fires recently in our State as well as countless smaller ones.
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  Worst Fire in California history

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in terms of destruction.

  52,000 people are evacuated.

  started thurs.

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  Was: My point EXACTLY!
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  Worst Fire in California history

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in terms of destruction.

  52,000 people are evacuated.

  started thurs.

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  Girl next door, I feel you. We saw 100- foot flames 3,000 feet from our house in the neighborhood where my best friend lives. Her house was saved but 6 of her neighbors lost theirs.