Posts by 3rdgen

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Hypothetical question

by Olesatthewheel in

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so here’s a scenario:-.

what if a female underwent a sex change .

she now he met a nice new chap and got married.. both get interested walking past a trolly full of washtowels (hard to believe i know but stick with me).

When I was in the WT policy was to make the person live as the sex they were born. So theoretically, this couple could be accepted and baptized as long as "he" went back to living as a "she". Now that would be impossible if she was surgically changed to become a man.

Watchtower would never recognize a marriage of the same sex. In order to be baptized, they would have to divorce and the transgender would probably be told he has to be celibate until the New system where Big J will restore him back to his original sex.

Lots of people are told they must WAIT for the New System to be happy.

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July 4 th Independence Day... Do You Know Any Witnesses That Celebrated?

by minimus in

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i knew of a ministerial servant that was called out because he used fire crackers on the 4 th of july.

we had to have an emergency meeting as to his qualifications.

i remember imploring the body to not make a big issue over this and it was decided to just “counsel” him about being involved in a patriotic holiday.🤨.

3rdgen

Happy Birthday USA and Pete Zahut!!

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Famous Movie Quotes You Like

by The Bethelite in

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the last lines from the movie platoon.

"i think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy, we fought ourselves, and the enemy was in us.

the war is over for me now, but it will always be there, the rest of my days.

3rdgen

"Get off my laaawn." Clint Eastwood, Gran Torino

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NBA Player Retires to Serve as Jehovah's Witness

by 720Reddog in

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27078092/collison-retires-nba-31-focus-faith .

3rdgen

Steve Sweeney of the Oakland Raiders also gave up his successful career, and the fame and $$ that came with it only to watch 1975 become a date that "Overzealous" JWs set for the End.

He and his wife were good friends of my former IN-Laws. Wonder if he is still a Dub?

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

3rdgen

To me, belief is like a pair of crutches. If you need them to be able to walk then fine. But can those who struggle with them honestly tell those who walk freely without them that Their way is better?

No, It is only better than not walking at all.

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A list of the oppressive controls the JWS religion places over its faithful adherents

by Finkelstein in

i thought i would start a thread listing the social behavior controls the jws religion places over its devoted followers just to arrive at an overall perspective of what this religion actually does to people while actively in it... starting off ........ 1.the interpretation of the bible by its leaders which can not be criticized or the doctrines which these men create, to do so would provoke punishment, shunning and accordingly identified as an evil person.. 2.the pressing restraint of associating with non-jws in daily social activities such as schools for children, adults in work places, local community events, charities etc.

3, dress restraints placed onto both sexes such as no pants worn at kingdom halls for woman, no wearing of yoga pants in public, no beards in most cases for men, hair has to be not over the ears for men.

suits have to be worn for men while giving public talks, shirts and ties should be worn during meetings at kingdom halls.

3rdgen

JWs are required to report so-called "wrongdoing" of fellow witnesses to the elders.

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QUESTION BAG

by Vanderhoven7 in

there are questions that come up from time to time that i need an answer to or a quotation from the watchtower literature to support....but not necessarily worthy of devoting an entire new thread to.

if anyone has a questions that they would like answered, why not post it on this thread and see if our collective can be of assistance in answering it.. here is mine for today: .

would a person who has a blood transfusion automatically be disassociating himself from the jehovah's witnesses?

3rdgen

The wife of the PO in our last Cong was given a pass when she happily accepted a blood transfusion. She was a baptized older sister who only attended the Memorial and one or two meetings a YEAR. Yet was the life of the party at EVERY wedding, funeral, barbeque, graduation, get-together.

What happens to someone who accepts a BT completely depends on the elders who handle the case.

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Just when I thought the cult's grip was loosening on my family. .

by nicolaou in

my never a jw dad tol me that my kid brother (32) is an elder.

it bothered me, i genuinely thought he was just going through the motions for the sake of his wife and our mum.. interestingly, dad was annoyed that he doesn't see so much of my brother lately and that my mum (uber jw) always makes excuses for him.. what a surprise.

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3rdgen

nicolaou, Like Giordano said, being an elder will likely expose your brother to the uglier side of the Borg.

My hubby, who is also an introvert, was an earnest elder who was never on a power trip. However, as an elder, he saw the backstabbing, favoritism, nepotism, egotism, etc. displayed by his fellow elders behind closed doors.

There were shouting matches at elders meetings. One elder was an alcoholic, one chocked his daughter and raped and beat his wife, one had an affair with a married sister with 3 kids, one was a scammer, and bilked elderly sisters out of tens of thousands of $.

The last straw was when he notified the body of elders and the CO that a brother they were considering to appoint an elder was arrested for pedophilia years before in another town. My hubby knew because he was distantly related to one of the victims. He even had an old newspaper clipping naming the brother as the accused. The brothers, the CO ignored hubby"s warning and appointed him. Hubby wrote the Society. They ignored him.

Seeing that awful scenario play out led to Hubby's permanent exit out of the cult. Maybe your brother will witness first hand TTATT.'

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Attention Lurkers- the Paradise Resort Bus

by stuckinamovement in

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imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation.

the destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny.

as you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print.

3rdgen

Hi, SIAM! I don't post much anymore but saw this today. So glad to hear you and your family are well.

Maybe we can meet up again and catch up.

Take Care.

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2019--June--8--Weekend Meeting--Video--WTBTS-PA

by Atlantis in

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watchtower bible and tract society of pa.. weekend meeting-june--8th--2019 speaker announced song at 4 minutes 30 seconds: public talk--is the trinity a scriptural teaching?at 31 minutes 12 seconds--the holy spirit is described as a finger and not on the same plain as jesus and his father.. at 34 minutes 20 seconds--jesus is superior to the holy spirit and jehovah is superior to both.at 35 minutes 20 seconds--public talk ends.. at 35 minutes 40 seconds--song.at 38 minutes 43 seconds--watchtower study.https://we.tl/t-idbbuwjlzi atlantis!

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3rdgen

I know a number of intelligent people "still in" but they don't pay attention to the meetings. They are planning their social life, daydreaming, thinking about where they are going on vacation, etc. etc.

Although intelligent and materially successful they tend to be shallow.