ok i posted about a month ago asking for advice on writing a letter to my former congregation regarding my children.
my ex husband still goes to our old hall and although we have joint custody he is raising them to be good little jws on his time.
i understand that in your organization age is not a determining factor in whether or not a person can get baptized, however as the young people ask book points out:
Michelle365, I'm glad that reading the experience proved useful.
Here is a link, for anyone who may be interested, of something I wrote on the subject of JW baptism showing how the whole thing is essentially a contract between the baptism 'candidate' and the Governing Body.
www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/241890/1/JW-Baptism
i believe we may all be surprized at the final outcome of this case.... as you may already know, arnold schwarzennegar appointed robert mcguiness as superior court judge in 2005. mcguinness is the judge in the candace conti case.. it is widely known that arnold scharzennegar is a high-ranking freemason with direct ties to the rothschild family (primary shareholders of the watchtower corporation).
judge robert mcguinness comes from a family of powerful and influential irish freemasons who also enjoy strong ties to the rothschild family.. so this could go south very quickly for candace in the next few days.... .
Apognophos, lol!
ok i posted about a month ago asking for advice on writing a letter to my former congregation regarding my children.
my ex husband still goes to our old hall and although we have joint custody he is raising them to be good little jws on his time.
i understand that in your organization age is not a determining factor in whether or not a person can get baptized, however as the young people ask book points out:
Michelle365
You may be interested in this experience at Paul Grundy's site:
jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/baptism-of-a-minor.php
It might help to quote an actual experience of where a body of elders completely ignored a father's right to prevent a minor from becoming a member of a particular religion. What if that religion had been the 'Moonies' or Scientology, what would the WTS's advice have been?
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
tammy, it seems we have a similar view, and thanks for your insight!
I would like to add that Christianity is not the only path that can lead to peaceful relations with others. Confucius, whose life overlapped the Babylonian captivity, also had much wisdom to offer in the matter of getting on with others. I am of the understanding that he also had a similar saying to the effect that one should not do to others what one would not want done to oneself. One problem with the written word in the form of ancient 'sacred' texts is that we cannot know for sure who wrote them, and more to the point if they really were of divine origin - even today there are those who claim to be in contact with the heavenly realm. To blindly follow a supposed 'sacred' written word can lead us into ignoring our inate conscience. This is why all sorts of horrendous acts have been committed in the name of religion. To follow the law written within us is, in my view, the best way. To give one example, if a religious text condoned the killing of people of a different religion, listening to the inner law (conscience) and giving it priority would prevent one from acting in a criminal manner.
i believe we may all be surprized at the final outcome of this case.... as you may already know, arnold schwarzennegar appointed robert mcguiness as superior court judge in 2005. mcguinness is the judge in the candace conti case.. it is widely known that arnold scharzennegar is a high-ranking freemason with direct ties to the rothschild family (primary shareholders of the watchtower corporation).
judge robert mcguinness comes from a family of powerful and influential irish freemasons who also enjoy strong ties to the rothschild family.. so this could go south very quickly for candace in the next few days.... .
Calebs Airplane, while I'm not one to resort to name calling and outright dismissal where conspiracies are concerned (history is full of conspiracies), credibility can only be strengthened by testable facts. Whether or not a person is a freemason does not of itself make them a bad guy. Also, I would be very interested in your claim that the Rothschild family are primary shareholders. Its not that I don't think it possible, but I do need to see concrete evidence of this before believing it to be a fact. I (sincerely) look forward to your presentation of the evidence.
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
In answer to the initial question, here is my answer:
Probably because if you were 'Almighty God' you would think of a far better way to transmit your message to people that a book written in a specific language. Your vastly superior wisdom would make you put your message in such a way that would completely bypass the problems associated with the written word (mistranslations, misinterpretations, etc). It would be far more effective to put it INSIDE every human being. I think this is what conscience is. There is no need for all sorts of written laws to enable people to live peacefully, just the inner voice that tells you, "No I'd better not do that because I wouldn't want that done to me!"
the pioneer walk.
these are urgent times in which we live,.
looking for folk to whom we can give,.
THE PIONEER WALK
Let's stop and gawk,
at the pioneer walk.
These are urgent times in which we live,
looking for folk to whom we can give,
a mag or two or a Bible stud,
tryin' to avoid a name like Mudd.
The message comes, "Make time count",
from the Fateful Slave, the spiritual fount,
"No time to waste on this ol' Syst,
Fill your bag and put your nose to the grist."
Let's stop and gawk,
at the pioneer walk.
If you're a Bro, puff out your chest,
you must take the lead at the GB's behest;
the sisters all know its a man's paradise,
so they'll follow you round like hungry mice.
If you're a Sis, puff out your cheek,
show 'em you're tired but ever so meek,
you're part of the army doin' the Org's work,
looking after your family's no reason to shirk.
Let's stop and gawk,
at the pioneer walk.
Keep in mind all those wonderful peeps,
who walk for miles just to get to the meets,
swimming with the crocs and facing the danger,
keeping it reg'lar won't mean your a stranger.
'Member that Bro, has a regular share,
just one lung, under medical care?
Whatever the weather he'll be havin' a ball,
knockin' on the doors, an example for all.
Let's stop and gawk,
at the pioneer walk.
Pioneers are an awesome bunch,
some walking tall, some with a hunch.
Looking for those with a spiritual need,
taking their time slowing the speed.
"Armageddon may be round the corner",
I heard it said from Brother Horner.
So now I keep a steady pace,
and tell everybody its not a race.
Let's stop and gawk,
at the pioneer walk.
Let's stop and gawk,
at the pioneer walk ...
your mission... should you choose to accept it, will be to find all checker floors in the watchtower publications, especially those involving worship.. .
if you can upload them here, great.
i don't know to upload a pic from my computer on this site.
"I think Solomon's temple had a checkered floor. That predates Freemasons by about two thousand years."
Well you see, as I understand it, Freemasonry traces its history back to Hiram Abif the master mason assigned to work on Solomon's temple!
BTW The British Police force have a chequered band on their flat caps, so what does that mean?
catch......you must choose one from this list.... .
http://www.gifsforum.com/listofmemes/gallery/jesus-is-a-jerk.
"I know your deeds and your toil and your perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to the test those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and you found them to be false." - Revelation 2:2.
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LivingTheDream, I recently bought a Kindle version of your book and thoroughly enjoyed it! Can't wait for the sequel about your journey out.
