i have been posting on here for a few weeks now and i know i have been quite colourful in my language.. i hope i have'nt offended anyone, if so, i am sorry.. i'm just so damn angry about everything.
i feel like an idiot.
i'd been falling for the bs for so many years.. will these feelings ever fade?.
Quelly, we have all been there, and it will get better! You are grieving. The five stages of grief are:
1. Denial & Isolation (You are not there; you are here!)
2. Anger (You are here; Rant away!)
3. Bargaining (There was no bargaining for me; I was done.)
4. Depression (Get help if you get stuck here; I did.)
5. Acceptance (This took me almost two years.)
You will move in and out of each stage.
I hope this helps!
has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?
what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.
if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.
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I've read about Mormons, because I knew a Mormon woman at one time. Some of the things mentioned in this thread and that she told me seemed unbelievable, but it was what she believed and practiced. She told me that she couldn't pray directly to god, only her husband could pray on her behalf. That was troublesome to me at the time.
jgnat, I took your test and scored 100% Universal Unitarian. This was actually the only church I checked out after I left. I just didn't get the concept of a church with no set doctrine after 42 years of being told what to believe. At this point (2.5 years out), I don't feel a need to join a community of faith.
i notice a trend that suggests that many ladies either have a one carat or bigger diamond ring or much smaller if any.. do you have a diamond ring and if you do, what size carat is it?
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Min, you have a right to your opinion. I was trained to adhere to industry standards by G.I.A.
i notice a trend that suggests that many ladies either have a one carat or bigger diamond ring or much smaller if any.. do you have a diamond ring and if you do, what size carat is it?
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Jewlers will talk about the 4 Cs-- Color, Cut, Clarity and Carat. I've always loved pretty rocks and am now a gemologist. For me the first three Cs are more important than carat weight. That being said, there is a difference in price between a light quarter, half or full carat diamond. It is unethical for a jeweler to sell a .24 carat, .49 carat or .99 carat stone as quarter, half or full carat stones respectively. There should be a nice price break for a "light" stone.
When we got married and were young and poor JWs, I had a gold band with tiny diamond chips which I loved. It was eventually stolen by a non-JW family member on cocaine. For our 25th anniversary I bought my own diamond at wholesale, since I was working for a jeweler. I chose a .78 carat, E color, VS1 claritey very well-cut diamond. In my opinion the cut is most important, as that is where you get your fire (brillance). As long as you don't go below G-H in color on the scale, the untrained eye will likey not see the difference. I can see it, so I chose E, as D is the top of the scale and way too pricey. Even a SI1 clarity should be acceptable to the untrained, naked eye. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love a gorgeous blue or pink sapphire. Sapphires make beautiful engagement rings and will hold up to daily wear.
One way to get a really nice stone is to ask a few reputable jewlers if they have any pre-owned diamonds in house. Often a jeweler will take a diamond ring he/she previously sold in trade toward a bigger stone. The jeweler will then remove the stone and from the old setting and keep it on hand until a new buyer comes along and chooses a new setting.
The old rule of two months' salary went out the window a long time ago.
Hope this helps!
for the last year or so, the opening lyrics to gloria estefan's "always tomorrow" have been howling at me.. i've been alone inside myself, far too long.
never really wanted it that way, but i let it happen..... .
(btw, the message in that song is great for former jw's, if you want to think about the lyrics that way....).
Glad you are back AllTimeJeff! I learned a lot from your earlier JWN posts.
Making friends is something I struggle with a lot. JW friends are like Ramen Noodle friends-- instant soup, just add water, stir and nuke it. Building lasting, trusting friendships takes time and effort.
Last year I went to my sister's mega church in a show of support when I visited her out of state here in the US. She had attended a meeting at the KH with me years earlier. I just sobbed. I didn't know what hit me. These people still had their faith in tact. They clearly felt safe and secure in their faith. I remember what that feels like, but it is gone. I'm glad I'm not in the JW bubble any more, but it can be lonely. The illusion of community in JWland is a powerful thing.
i see people mentioning this and have visited the site looking at all posted wt's.......i see no paragraph's discussing 'generations'....does anyone have any direction?.
"Evidently" they are holding the 2010 party line. My first thought when I heard them explain the over-lapping generation "new light" was, "That's crap."
I think Mark Sanderson qualifies for the OL generation if you do the numerology. Example: In 1914 there lives a 20-year-old "spirit annointed son of God." He dies when he is 90 years old in 1984. Mark Sanderson is in his mid-50's, if I recall correctly. Let's use age 50 for the sake of round numbers. Say he was also a 20-year-old "spirit annointed son of God". 2014 less 30 years brings you back to 1984. Every year over the 50 years old in 2014 calculation just adds to the overlap.
Maybe there is someone better versed in WT numerology than I.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.
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married 35 years to a raised-in since five years old, now ex-jw.
Ruby, When I first told my son I was no longer going to be a JW, he said, "Wow, I didn't see that one comin'!" I apologized to both of my children from my heart for any pain I may have caused them. Their love just melted my heart.
Neither want to talk about TTATT, but I am convinced that it would be a cold day in fictional hell before either set foot in another KH! My son has been out for six years and says he is proud that he got himself out of a cult and wants to move on with his life. It was clear that my daughter was going to leave by the time she was 15 years old. She told me she was pressured into getting baptized by two pioneer sisters. So much for holy spirit guiding the elders. She knew all the baptismal questions, but didn't believe in god or the Bible when she got baptized.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.
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married 35 years to a raised-in since five years old, now ex-jw.
Randy, Loyalty to an organizaton above all else is a cancer in the WTS. I hope it is what ultimately brings about its demise.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.
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married 35 years to a raised-in since five years old, now ex-jw.
Troubled mind. I am so sorry for the loss of your childhood friend. I have seen up close how decades of cognitive dissonance can kill. I have seen it lead to alcoholism in my former congregation-- a mom whose husband insists on shunning their two boys is in a pattern of drinking, getting DF'd for overdrinking and getting reinstated. There is no real help given for alcoholism, and AA is not allowed as it is a "false religion". Also, there is an elder "who drinks like it's his job" according to my son. He is the former P.O., and he and his wife shun their two sons as well. There was a suicide in our congregation directly due to shunning. That mom died of cancer. The WT destroys families. Case closed.
I think the ultimate cruel hook they have in those of us who stay for decades beyond all reason is that they tell you that if you leave, then your children will have no incentive to "return to Jehovah", and they will die. It is cruel, and so is teaching children that their non-JW family are going to die at Armegeddon.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.
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married 35 years to a raised-in since five years old, now ex-jw.
Thanks LoisLane, We will! I've been working hard on my Spanish!
Hortensia, in the past I took pity on them showing up at my door all cold and wet, but I'm done talking with them now, especially after the last visit by two suits. I have my own two witness rule-- never talk to two witnesses at a time!
Human potential is a terrible thing to waste! I was always interested in alternative/complimentary medicine, but I'm in my mid-fifties, and my husband is nearing retirement. It would not be economically feasible to pursue highter education at this point in my life. I'm thankful to have found the healing aspect of internal martial arts.
