I personally think man-made trees are utterly worthless. They look awful (sort of like those "incognito" cell phone towers that look like a horrible stage prop), they're a real pain in the ass to put away (they never fit in the box like they did when you opened it), and I find it tremendously annoying when they come with built in lights. I can easily drive to the grocery store parking lot, pay for a tree, bungie cord/strap it down to the roof of my car, drive back, bring it in the living room and put it up. Takes 20 minutes. Then, when you're done, you can just burn it as firewood. It also looks/smells authentic... because it is, you can hang ornaments on it (I have a BUNCH of heavy ornaments which don't even hang on the crappy wiring that they call "branches"). I'm probably just sour because my mom always got a real tree when we lived in CA, then we moved to AZ and she got a crappy plastic one that went up to my stomach. Pitiful really.
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Putting up my "midwinter pagan festival blinken light tree" - I got's questions
by darthfader inwhen i was little (before jwism) we celebrated christmas.
my parents got the "truth" then we no longer celebrated it.
we used to get together with family and friends and it was great!
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Songs everyone should hear--at least once in their lives
by WTWizard inand no, the sxxx that comes out of the kingdumb hell is not among that.. with all the rubbish you hear on the radio these days, one wonders if there are any decent songs out there.
and "rubbish" doesn't mean debased music or music with satanic messages encoded in it.
it means the crap that is thrown together, auto-tune'd for homogenization, and stuffed onto the radio.
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The Jam - In the City
Smiths - Smiths
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (Teen Age Riot is one of the greatest songs of all time)
Beatles - A Hard Day's Night (album, not song)
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Mickey Mouse thinks religious belief is.............
by wobble inmickey mouse, our very own treasured poster, not the cartoon character, thinks that religious belief is both rational and intelligent.. do you ?.
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What I fail to understand is why the 'burden of proof' seems to be on creationists to provide undeniable evidence of the existence of an intelligent creator?
It's called an "argument from ignorance".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
However, if I or anyone else is arguing a positive item, I am the one that must provide evidence for it's existence.
For instance
THEISM
a = the physical world
b = God
c = religious belief
a+b=c
ATHEISM
d= no belief, only natural world
a = d
Being that theism is proposing something that is surplus to physical existence, they are the ones that have the burden of showing us proof of b, so that we might come to conclusion c.
It's incredibly difficult for theists to understand this for some reason... semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit or "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges/claims"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence
And yet again (I think the 5th time, the other 4 times it has been ignored by the theists of this forum) I will post Martin's argument of acceptable disbelief
A person is justified in believing that X does not exist if
(1) all the available evidence used to support the view that X exists is shown to be inadequate; and
(2) X is the sort of entity that, if X exists, then there is a presumption that would be evidence adequate to support the view that X exists; and
(3) this presumption has not been defeated although serious efforts have been made to do so; and
(4) the area where evidence would appear, if there were any, has been comprehensively examined; and
(5) there are no acceptable beneficial reasons to believe that X exists.
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Songs everyone should hear--at least once in their lives
by WTWizard inand no, the sxxx that comes out of the kingdumb hell is not among that.. with all the rubbish you hear on the radio these days, one wonders if there are any decent songs out there.
and "rubbish" doesn't mean debased music or music with satanic messages encoded in it.
it means the crap that is thrown together, auto-tune'd for homogenization, and stuffed onto the radio.
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40's - Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker, Charlie Bird, Django Rhinehardt
50's - Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Cadillacs, Chords, Crows, Everly Brothers, Roy Orbison
60's - Leonard Cohen, Kinks, Stones, Doors, Beatles, Hollies, Dion & the Belmonts, Led Zeppelin (#I was the best album, '69!), Velvet Underground
70's, 80's - Sex Pistols, Clash, Crass, Ramones, Black Flag, Cure, Saccharine Trust, Flipper, Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, Fang, Stooges, New York Dolls, Minor Threat, Scream, Void, NoMeansNo, Squirrel Bait
90's - Nirvana, Breeders, Sonic Youth, Pixies,
And I'm sorry but the B-52's were NOT alternative music. ahaha.
You also said that alternative music used to be "new wave and punk rock" but you didn't list any of them.
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Mickey Mouse thinks religious belief is.............
by wobble inmickey mouse, our very own treasured poster, not the cartoon character, thinks that religious belief is both rational and intelligent.. do you ?.
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noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability. 2. belief that is not based on proof:
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Mickey Mouse thinks religious belief is.............
by wobble inmickey mouse, our very own treasured poster, not the cartoon character, thinks that religious belief is both rational and intelligent.. do you ?.
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A religious person cannot be intelligent or rational.
I am a militant, demeaning, belittling atheist, who has extreme faith in my "religion" (what religion? It's like saying an anarchist is running for president or something along those lines).
By the way tec, to say that someone comes to faith with evidence is a contradictory statement. Faith is belief without evidence. So nope.
Praise no God!
War to you!
A slave of nature!
(I am the stereotypical atheist, or at least the stereotypical atheist in the eyes of christians.... Lol)
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The Ideas Thread - all are welcome!
by cedars insorry it's been a while since i posted anything.
i've kind of had my hands full of late.
there are some things i want to say, but i am saving some of it for a more appropriate time.. i thought i would start a simple "ideas thread" as a thread on which we can, well, share our ideas!
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Well if we put in fine print in the bottom left "Sponsored by Jehovah's Witnesses" and we got people who weren't disfellowshipped to put them up, are we really lying?
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The Ideas Thread - all are welcome!
by cedars insorry it's been a while since i posted anything.
i've kind of had my hands full of late.
there are some things i want to say, but i am saving some of it for a more appropriate time.. i thought i would start a simple "ideas thread" as a thread on which we can, well, share our ideas!
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Does it invite legal trouble to create a poster or leaflet that supports JW's ridiculous beliefs and then claim sponsorship by JW's? I figure if we could anonymously attach them to poles or other places where you usually find posters no one would know who it was.
For instance...
WE WANT YOU
(picture of your cliche horribly dressed (in a suit) elder pointing a finger at reader)
TO (insert ridiculous JW belief)
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Which is greater love or freedom ?
by caliber inwhich is greater love or freedom ?
can they exist apart ?.
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Depending on what absence of freedom we are talking about, love could be made a privilege rather than a natural right, so I would say freedom. I would rather be free to love than remember my love of freedom.
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The REAL atheist meaning of life . . .
by nicolaou inthere isn't one and that's a really good thing.
let me illustrate;.
you are an artist, you pick up a new canvas and place it on your easel.
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But you only speak of ONE SIDE of the argument. Only the BAD things that can happen when we do such ridiculous things as "driving a car or ot walking on the street" happen.
Mahatma Ghandi had a completely original view towards life, freedom, and justice. Not sure how that's not following his own rules. MLK made massive boycotts happen (and didn't use violence) which helped further the Civil Rights Movement (how is that not his own rules?)
You are speaking of a morally deficient human being. One that has been desensitized and ignores moral standards. You are naming infamous rarities as your proof for human beings "making up their own rules", which is a ridiculous premise for an argument.