Does this also mean that since the woman is imposing here will on the situation and decides to have the child, that the man also has a right not to support this child since he does not want it?
What do you think; is it better to have underfed and poor children, or make absent dads pay? To me it's a very simple question and I look forward to a very simple answer, especuially as you have been going on at legth about the rights of the child, and after the birth, we are in full agreement about these rights.
What are you smokin? Can I have some? Where did I say anything about starving children? Look, you want a simple answer from me. If you wouldn't try the rope a dope method of an answer you'd get one from me. Try answering the question directly, not some round about generalization.
This whole discussion got thrown off course with mens and womens rights. How can you say that the support of an unwanted child by a man, that the woman wants is for another discussion? They are pertinent to the conversation.
As there is such an obvious and measurable difference it is for YOU to show that they are the same, it is for YOU to show that it is wrong (as your presumption of wrongness stems from your presumtion of equality).
Of course, individuals have their own rights of choice. That is EXACTLY what I am in favour of.
Do you realize, the above sentence answers what your asking me to "prove" ? What kind of arrogant plain to you exist on. Why do you think, I have to prove what I believe to you or anyone else? Your sitting there telling me I'm wrong because of what you believe...arrogance! To your beliefs it is obvious. You see this from a different point of view. I would never tell anyone that they were "obviously wrong" about thier beliefs. Do you actually believe all the crap you spill out. Presumption of wrongness that stems from presumption of equality? Who do you think you are? Are you perfect? How can you point the finger at other people? Remember, when you point the finger, there are three pointing right back at you.
While I will "discuss" issue's here. I will not tolerate people attacking what I beleive, simply because that person feels his beliefs are right.
This is what this dicussion has come to...telling an individual that his beliefs are wrong, because of another one's beliefs, and then wanting that person to "prove it".
I've stated my beliefs and aswered them, you've given me and alot of other people mostly round about answers while you want direct answers.
Answer as you like, however I'm just going to let this go.There is no need to further this issue on my part.
Have Good Day