Curious Mind if in fact the US has lost some countries looking to it for guidance that is fine. Many countries like Germany, Sweden, NZ, England and others have turned so far left they are effectively destroying them self. What you said is like a child saying they no longer look to a parent for guidance as they are a junkie pimp living on the street. Good riddens to them. I only hope before they do destroy them-self that right thinking people rise up and take back their nation. Maybe they need a make England and Germany great again leader. As far as Australia goes its like an 80 year old lady, every one knows where she lives but no one wants to visit.
As far as being in the Australian military that is a kind of appeal to authority fallacy argument. It is a false thinking argument. The original post was to point out that when liberal idiots and their useful idiot familiars say you don't need more than 10 or 7 rounds to defend yourself that only works if there are one maybe at the most two criminals you are going up against. So if you are indeed in the Military and not some arm chair fatty you know damn well that no one is going up against multiple people trying to hurt, kill or maim them with a hand gun with 7 rounds. That if you live in a place where the leftist idiots let criminals run wild, do not arrest or when they do turn them loose again to destroy and kill what you need is not a 7 round gun but something you can actually defend yourself with.
I look to how in Waco a few women and men whipped the shit out of a heavy armed and had the latest equipment ATF. this is not to say the BDs were not a crazy religion. But to show how a few untrained people can defend themselves with the right guns. Sorry you want to subjugate your fellow countrymen instead of trusting them to good citizens. I am doubting you are in the military. Growing up around those in they don't sound like you at all. they are for people owning guns at least the military in the USA.