Posts by MarkofCane

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JW Recovery just closed

by Lanzing in

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i was surfing jw recovery .com, all of the sudden a screen came up that says .

jehovah's witness recovery.

after much consideration, we have decided to move on to other things, and bring this site to a close.

Sorry about JWR abruptly closure, I can only imagine the time and resources required to run and maintain a site like this. The admin are people too who have been through a hole lot themselves, they also must navigate through this mess the best they can just because they have the technical capability to start up a recovery site does not mean they are recovered themselves. We need to remember their right to find peace and happiness and if distancing themselves from religion and all it entails, then that is their journey. Good luck to them

Hopefully many of you will stay a while and contribute on this forum, new one are always welcomes and new perspectives and ideas is what recovery is all about. So a big welcome to everyone.

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Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing

by Freeandclear in

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so is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?

let me explain.

about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.

MarkofCane

Great advice from this community it shows we have all been there.

We’ve spent a life time rejecting ourselves and adopting another man’s vision. We have been told that every inclination of the heart is bad, that this world and all of its desire are satanic inspired and doomed. We have been groomed and programmed to find fault in everything even ourselves, we are but a worthless slave…. remember. We had to put on a new personality, a personality designed to accept anything they regurgitate. They broke our spirit so that we wouldn’t question anything…..look at all the new videos, mental manipulation at it best.

The military uses a similar tactic in boot camp to indoctrinate young minds…..they could never convince them to go to war and accept an order hinged on death without mental manipulation first. That’s what’s happened to us. Once a solder returns from combat to mediocrity its torture they can’t adjust to normal….PTS, most instances it takes professional help.

You have to reprogram your mind. The system has been corrupted, you need to wipe and do a new clean install of operating system.

System requirements:

· Breathing room for my mind and spirit.

· Trusting myself instead of doubting myself.

· Appreciating the good and beautiful in the world instead of always seeking out the evil and ugly.

· Laughing at whatever I find funny.

· Setting my own priorities.

· Never allowing anyone to tell me what to think, what to believe, what to enjoy, where to go, whom to associate

Then, stop obsessing over religion or god… leave it alone for a while you will know if and when you need to revisit it. Keep yourself busy with something you enjoy… maybe learn to play a guitar? or start a hobby who knows might lead to a business venture that you will find enjoyable. Give yourself to your kids….live through them, through their eyes. Volunteer in something you believe will better humanity even after you’re gone.

But for me the most important is: Listen for the sound of the genuine in yourself, your inner self, your inner voice it will tell you what to do. That is the voice they told you to reject, because that is the voice of reason, it’s the voice of logic the voice of self preservation, it’s the voice that must be shut off for the cults tactics to work. Listen to it, its who you are. If you listen you will find yourself.

Good luck

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"Meetings, meetings....

by zeb in

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..bloody meetings" --dale carnegie.. i say this as my wife frequently returns from meetings in a bad mood and after any convention a worse than bad mood.. i detect the same in others postings.

whatever the wt is spewing out it is not honey but vinegar.

im going to bed with a book..

MarkofCane

Think back what you remember and felt about apostates?

She goes to the meetings and all she hears is God will destroy those opposing him, God will kill his enemy's, Satan and his minions are toast. So we have become everything they despise, in essence she is sleeping with the enemy and your trying to destroy her faith.

She is pissed because you become too wise in your own eyes, you think you know more than God's himself. You are no longer the spiritual man she fell in love with, the spiritual man that will lead her family into the new world, that would be at her side to rebuild a perfect society and live in perfect harmony along side God. The father and husband that will help reunite the resurrected with those grieving, that will teach those new one the grander of your creator and his promises. The man that will hold her forever and together explore every desire of your heart.

This is what you have taken from her, this is the power of this Cult. This is what we are up against.

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I have a plan....

by DATA-DOG in

with all of the bat-shit crazy propaganda of late, i'm considering talking to my wife about the cult.

we have had zero religious discussions for two years.

the last discussion ended with ,"you have no beliefs, no personal beliefs, because you change your "beliefs" when the wtbts writes an article.

MarkofCane

"Wifey, you are going to hear some bat-shit crazy things at the RC. None of it will happen. The children who you see at the KH will all graduate High School in the next decade. We will bury our parents. The old ones at the KH will be gone. We will continue to get older, and then we are next to go. There's no overlapping generation and the "Evil Slave" in not hypothetical. ( I have to use the Bible angle for now.) Are you going to remember what I've just said in 10 - 20 years??"

Amen

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EdenOne, Mrs. Eden & Son: DISASSOCIATED!

by EdenOne in

great news!.

we are free!.

as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.

MarkofCane

Liberdade!

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TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!

by TerryWalstrom in

two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!

cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .

the first man is william f. hudgings.

MarkofCane

Interesting read.

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For those who are still in... What do you do about field service?

by Wait For It in

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for those of you who are still in because of family circumstances, what do you do about field service?

do you still go regularly, sporadically or not at all?.

if you do still go, how do you manage?

MarkofCane

Wait for it; you said "The only reason I'm even entertaining the thought of going is because of my kids. Getting DF or DAing, wouldn't bother me a bit, but it would restrict me from being around my kids when they are at gatherings and such."

No judging here, just relating where I'm at with all this obligation and guilt they try to instill in us. You need to do what works for you and your sanity. What works for me might not work for your circumstance or visa versa. I'm playing the offended brother card to the hilt.

I told the last couple of elders, that I had contact with "until Jehovah corrects the issues I will keep my distance so as not to create division in the congregation." Got to say it works they have pretty much back off and don't bother us much. We get the occasional, "need your time calls". But other than that, I avoid them like the plague.

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For those who are still in... What do you do about field service?

by Wait For It in

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for those of you who are still in because of family circumstances, what do you do about field service?

do you still go regularly, sporadically or not at all?.

if you do still go, how do you manage?

MarkofCane

Thanks Stan

Its nice to know many feel your pain and know where you are coming from, this community has help me so much. In a couple of week I will need to go to the convention and try not to show my true self. Kind of, like the movie "Invasion of the body snatchers" where they all turn around, scream and point "apostate!"

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For those who are still in... What do you do about field service?

by Wait For It in

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for those of you who are still in because of family circumstances, what do you do about field service?

do you still go regularly, sporadically or not at all?.

if you do still go, how do you manage?

MarkofCane

Reading this op made me realize what a sad existence we have been forced to live. I did this for awhile until my conscience got the best of me, I just can't go out and preach something I don't agree with. So I stopped going out in service, quit my bible study's and family worship. The more I discovered the more I detest even looking at their literature. Just makes me sick to think, what my life could of been if it wasn't for the Watchtower. So I wont propagate this lifestyle or mental manipulation onto anyone else. I've reported and donated goose eggs for almost 3 years now. So i'm inactive, bad association and spiritually weak............at least I have my sanity.

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Update on My Journey: 8 Years After the End of Watchtower Control

by passwordprotected in

i last updated you guys almost 2 years ago here.. i thought i'd post an update.. the peace i discovered having decided to let the angst, worry and fear over what to believe is as strong as ever, although i am keeping more abreast of what jw.org (formerly known as wtbts) is up to, and i never cease to be shocked and surprised.. as my last post mentioned, i split from the jw girl i married in 1993 and both of us have moved on with new partners that better fit who we are as grown adults, rather than the children we were 23 years ago.. my partner has no religious background whatsoever, although her children are being raised as catholics by their father.

hearing her kids openly doubt, question and even ridicule the religion is heartwarming and exactly the way it should be.. as for my children, they continue to be a never-ending stream of joy and pride.. my oldest son is now 16, having been only 8 years old when we left the watchtower.

he had big anxiety problems for a while afterwards, worrying about armageddon etc.

MarkofCane

Glad you dropped by and updated the community on your progress. Hope your health improves and your journey continues in good health, heart disease sucks. I wish more of the old posters would drop by and encourage those just waking up and leaving this cult. Many are unsure if they made the right decisions or question if things will ever get better, your story gives many hope.

Best of luck to you my friend.