Posts by MarkofCane

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" you will never grow old..."

by mrquik in

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" you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.

i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.

i heard it many times after that.

" you will never grow old..."

by mrquik in

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" you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.

i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.

i heard it many times after that.

You know I really don't care what they preach, if people want to believe it then let them. My problem is how they deal with those that decide it's all bullshit! You should be able to say to anyone, who wants to listen "its a destructive cult and its all lies". Look at all the lies they have been spewing since the 1800, they are the epitome of a false prophet here the proof, look at all the pedophile issues happening in the congregations, on and on we could go...but no we are threatened with losing our families if we speak the TRUTH. That's what infuriates me about this destructive controlling CULT.

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How the Kevin Class started...

by Stumpy in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djtu_mozj5y.

MarkofCane

There must be empty chairs in the Kingdom hall.

My reality.

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What a fader can say to a sleepy witness?

by Darkknight757 in

i have a question.

yesterday while the wife and i were hitting garage sales we seen a house selling tools.

this house happened to be a witness couple getting rid of some old stuff.

MarkofCane

Gulf coaster said: My mother thrives on doom and gloom, so the cult is perfect for her.

My mom is the same, all she talks about is the end is eminent! You change the subject and she steers it right back to the end is at hand. Holy shit I started to just avoid her calls it tiresome. My poor mom she is almost 80 yrs old and all her dreams and desires are a lie. Once she is gone I will become very vocal about how I feel and will not hold back, gloves are coming off.

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What a fader can say to a sleepy witness?

by Darkknight757 in

i have a question.

yesterday while the wife and i were hitting garage sales we seen a house selling tools.

this house happened to be a witness couple getting rid of some old stuff.

MarkofCane

If we tell them life is great, everything is great, they will suddenly see that we are not "with them", not even "in spirit" let alone in person, and we suddenly become "worldly", or worse -- apostate. Even more so if we say anything negative about their precious JW concepts. They see it as we've lost our way and lost our faith and chosen The World over The Troof. We are no longer "victims" (as they see themselves) in this rotten old system of things. Rather, we've embraced the rotten old system and are loving it.

So true, I bet my whole congregation will think of us when they see the bunker videos. "Where's Kevin?" "He no longer wants anything to do with us." That video is designed to cast a dark cloud over inactive ones... we are bird food, in their minds.

I recently spoke to a old friend who is in my old congregation, he was going on and on about being tired and burned out.....so I said " honestly, since I stopped going to the meeting my stress level has disappeared, my anxiety is almost gone.....their was just to much guilt and pressure to be, just so." He went quiet and thought about it for a while ....then said. "But we are so close to the end", we were interrupted and so changes subjects.

A lot of people are waking up and it starts with a few kind words.

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WT acually truthful in today's text!

by Sanchy in

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...hope to enjoy everlasting life and witness the resurrection, things unseen by the world.

like the philosophers of paul’s day who called him an ignorant “chatterer,” most people today think that the hope we preach is sheer nonsense.

(acts 17:18) .

MarkofCane

Kevin said the same thing. "Sheer nonsense!"

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Don't believe anyone is up there listening - said a prayer anyway out of sense of obligation

by Zoos in

i've read many statements on this forum from people who have expressed the sentiment that you don't shove ttatt down the throat of an older person.

it would be too traumatic and its best to let some people, in some situations, simply pass on in the delusion.. its humane.

merciful.. in the initial roar of my awakening, i was unable to cuddle up to that sentiment; preferring, instead, to shove the blood curdling shock of truth down the throat of anyone i could get my grip on... age be dammed.

MarkofCane

Good Karma Zoos. What do you do crush the mans faith just to make a point? No... you did good!

I've been called to pray, it all feels cultishly weird like talking to myself, pulling up old phrases from bygone days. I avoid the situation where I might be called on to pray and have said no before but there are times we need to do what we need to do.

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What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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MarkofCane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsA2ETp7JA

Hypnotic

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Introduction - Any Believers?

by Believer in

i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

MarkofCane

"Think as I think,' said a man, 'or you are abominably wicked; you are a toad.' And after I had thought of it, I said, ‘I will, then, be a toad." - Stephen Crane

I agree. I was thinking of bringing my wife to this site as her journey continues out of the cult but after seeing how fanatical some get and hateful, I know she would run back the other direction. Their's no point saying anymore the direction of this site is not recovery but to inculcate a strict standard of atheistic views, even though I agree with most of it the delivery must be more towards teaching and not berating those who come here to share. We cant forget we did the same thing when we were dubs, hell we even brought it to there doors. This is the largest site for exiting JW we might be doing more harm then good.

Sorry to see you go David Jay your post were always so well thought out and seasoned.

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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by dubstepped in

"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".

those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.

what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?

MarkofCane

I do believe in some sort of "god" or energy or something bigger than us, but I can't tell you if it is benevolent or not. It just is whatever it is, and I'm not worried about it anymore.
My desire is to live a good life, to help others, and to do no harm. On my deathbed, rather than looking forward to a particular hope or in fear of some punishment to come, my goal is to look back on my life and to know that I gave it my best and left people better off for knowing me. I would rather find satisfaction in what I actually could have some impact on than have my waning moments wasted on something that is out of my control.

This is a profound statement! I enjoyed this post read the entire thread. I can relate with you in so many ways, everyday I ask myself did I make a mistake?, Could I have gotten it wrong? I always answer the same.....No. This a abusive cult that has ruined my life, 45 years of servitude and it stops....no more. I'm still working through the mind control hooks that linger in the deep crevices of my mind. I at time find myself looking at things with the JW mind set. I anxiously wait for the day that I'm normal and no longer have any connection to anything or anyone JW.

It is great that you and your wife have found the way out together it makes it easier to leave with your partner on your side.