Posts by Badfish

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The absolute insanity that religion breeds

by LoveUniHateExams in

however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

Badfish

DisillusionedJW, yes, I’m a five-point Calvinist. But there’s really no point in debating the finer points of theology with an unbeliever when they don’t accept the very foundation — the gospel.

You say you’ve tried to believe but were never able. There is nothing anyone can say in an appeal to your intellect that would cause you to believe in stories such as animals of all kinds getting on a boat and escaping a massive flood, the sun standing still for a battle, a talking snake in a garden, a talking donkey arguing with a prophet, a burning bush that doesn’t burn up, etc. The ungodly mind is like a brick wall — it has been built to keep God out. Your carnal mind is at enmity with God, it lays up arguments against God, and it is the place of hostility toward God. In order to reach your heart, the only way in is to go around that brick wall and speak directly to your conscience.

First, you need to become aware of the holiness of God. You also need to see yourself in the mirror, in comparison to God, by seeing how you’ve measured up to his standards in keeping his law. God doesn’t demand that you just try your best or give it your best shot — God demands absolute perfection.

Once you have become convicted of your complete failure to live up to this standard and your total inability to do so, you might be ready for the gospel. If so, you might be enabled to believe by the power of the Holy Spirit.

But you will never get anywhere in this regard (except for maybe a false conversion) by debating the existence of God through logic and rationale.

https://youtu.be/pYZw0dfLmLk

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The absolute insanity that religion breeds

by LoveUniHateExams in

however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

Badfish

WokenfromJWcult
https://youtu.be/3nmYOQIidqo

That is Iglesia Ni Cristo, a cult that is very similar to the JWs. Definitely not Christian.

They got their beliefs from a single charismatic cult leader who claims to have a special revelation from God, and he actually got a lot of his views from JWs.

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The absolute insanity that religion breeds

by LoveUniHateExams in

however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

Badfish

What kind of a God who calls himself "Not Partial" ---enable some to believe and some not to believe?"
Answer; A god who is prejudice!
Prejudice is an affective feeling towards a person based on their perceived group membership

God doesn’t enable you to not believe, you do not believe of your own free will. By enabling some to believe, he is having mercy on them. If he gave us all justice, we would all be condemned. He chooses to show mercy to some. Some get justice, others receive mercy. But there is never any injustice with God.

14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.
Romans 9:14-16

A judge who shows mercy to a criminal in one case, but locks up another criminal in another case is not an unjust judge. The act of showing mercy is not an injustice.

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The absolute insanity that religion breeds

by LoveUniHateExams in

however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

Badfish

PROVE that salvation by a man who died thousands of years ago is a real thing. Show the EVIDENCE!

There is plenty of eyewitness testimony that establishes it. For example:

”3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.“ (1 Corinthians 15:3-8)

Of course, it’s up to you as to whether or not you believe the evidence (well not really, because if God hasn’t enabled you to believe, you will not believe).

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What would happen to the Watchtower Org. if the recent UFO sightings were actually aliens ready to take over Earth

by pistolpete in

the past two weeks several ufo sightings.

navy and pentagon confirm sightings.

us military is worried because the technology being used to drive these air vehicles are showing no signs of any sort of jet fuel.

Badfish

That's called "Ducking the issue"
The creation of humans by other mortal beings besides "a Christian God" does not make it mandatory to push for an answer as to who created "those other mortal beings or Creators. Link Dislike Like

It may not be “mandatory” to push for an answer, but I’m pushing for an answer.

Explaining away the origin of humans as being created by other space-bound and time-bound, mortal beings — rather than being created by an eternal, immortal being, not bound by time and space — sounds more like “ducking the issue” to me.

It simply pushes the question of the origin of life one step back. Or maybe you believe the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything.

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What would happen to the Watchtower Org. if the recent UFO sightings were actually aliens ready to take over Earth

by pistolpete in

the past two weeks several ufo sightings.

navy and pentagon confirm sightings.

us military is worried because the technology being used to drive these air vehicles are showing no signs of any sort of jet fuel.

Badfish

The implications being that humans were created by other mortal beings in the Universe with no purpose in mind.

Well then who created those “other mortal beings?”

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The absolute insanity that religion breeds

by LoveUniHateExams in

however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

Badfish

All religions are either earning rewards in the next life though good deeds/refraining from evil (i.e. JWs), or earning rewards now (i.e. Joel Osteen’s false prosperity gospel).

Except real Christianity, which has nothing to do with your own works but everything to do with what Jesus has done, where salvation is a free gift that cannot be earned.

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Do You Think White People Are Being Discriminated Against?

by minimus in

jw
friends

some call it reverse discrimination.

whatever you want to refer to as, in your opinion, are white people being unfairly picked on?

it seems acceptable that if you are white you are viewed with disdain.

Badfish

The libs will call you “way-cist” just for making this thread.

The University of California has declared this statement racist: “There is only one race - the human race.”

I found this in Dennis Prager’s “Questions to determine if a friend or relative is a liberal or a leftist.” It’s a really good set of questions and puts things into perspective: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/03/02/dennis-prager-questions-to-determine-whether-a-friend-or-relative-is-a-liberal-or-a-leftist-1037116/

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Differences between Christians and Jehovah’s Witnesses

by Badfish in

christians are saved by grace alone though faith alone in christ alone to the glory of god alone.. jws are “saved” by their faith in the men in brooklyn, ny through their works (number of hours spent in field service, record of meeting attendance, and moral excellence or law-keeping (not breaking the long list of rules made by those men in brooklyn).. christians believe that jesus is capable of paying for the sins of mankind because he is god manifest in the flesh.

christians believe that the temple of jesus’ body was torn down and raised again on the third day, thus fulfilling the scriptures.. jws, on the other hand, believe that jesus is the created being, michael the archangel, manifest in the flesh, and that although he became a man and underwent physical death, he was not physically raised from the dead.. christians read jesus’ words: “truly, truly, i say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.“ therefore, christians partake in communion.. jws, on the other hand, have a yearly ritual ceremony in which they publicly reject communion.

they make a public spectacle of refusing the new covenant.. christians believe that salvation is monergistic - that god works through the holy spirit to bring about the salvation of an individual through spiritual regeneration, regardless of the individual's cooperation.

Badfish

Jerryh11 hours ago

Badfish they apparently think God is subject to space time.
So do JWs believe the pre-incarnate Jesus was outside time and space?
*** Watchtower 1981 2/15 p. 6 How Real Is God to You? ***
Actually, by teaching that God is omnipresent Christendom has confused matters and made it more difficult for God to be real to his worshipers. How could God be present everywhere at the same time? God is a spirit Person, which means that he does not have a material body, but a spiritual one. A spirit has a body? Yes, for we read, “If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.” (1 Cor. 15:44; John 4:24) God being an individual, a Person with a spirit body, has a place where he resides, and so he could not be at any other place at the same time.

Wow! I knew they had a low view of God, but I didn’t know it was that low! Thanks for the information.

The funny thing is that the verse they quoted is not speaking about God, it’s speaking about the resurrection. If they actually did a full exegesis of 1 Corinthians 15 for the reader instead of pulling one little line out of context, they would have to completely change their teachings about the resurrection.

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Differences between Christians and Jehovah’s Witnesses

by Badfish in

christians are saved by grace alone though faith alone in christ alone to the glory of god alone.. jws are “saved” by their faith in the men in brooklyn, ny through their works (number of hours spent in field service, record of meeting attendance, and moral excellence or law-keeping (not breaking the long list of rules made by those men in brooklyn).. christians believe that jesus is capable of paying for the sins of mankind because he is god manifest in the flesh.

christians believe that the temple of jesus’ body was torn down and raised again on the third day, thus fulfilling the scriptures.. jws, on the other hand, believe that jesus is the created being, michael the archangel, manifest in the flesh, and that although he became a man and underwent physical death, he was not physically raised from the dead.. christians read jesus’ words: “truly, truly, i say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.“ therefore, christians partake in communion.. jws, on the other hand, have a yearly ritual ceremony in which they publicly reject communion.

they make a public spectacle of refusing the new covenant.. christians believe that salvation is monergistic - that god works through the holy spirit to bring about the salvation of an individual through spiritual regeneration, regardless of the individual's cooperation.

Badfish

Food for thought:

God created time and space when the universe came into being;
JWs admit that the universe was created through the pre-incarnate Jesus;

So do JWs believe the pre-incarnate Jesus was outside time and space? If so, he is eternal. In order to argue against this, they need to answer the question: When was he created, if he himself was not bound by time and space? (If they are intellectually honest, the answer will be “he has existed from eternity past.”)

If JWs argue that the pre-incarnate Jesus was bound by time and space, then how was it created through him? How could he be bound by his own creation? This is a contradiction, because a created being bound by time and space cannot create time and space. Yet many JWs say they believe the Big Bang Theory - that it was the creation of the universe by God - and that time and space begin at the Big Bang. So where was Jesus? Did he come before or after the Big Bang?

To the contrary of what JWs teach, Hebrews chapter 1 says this about Jesus:

“You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning,

and the heavens are the work of your hands;

they will perish, but you remain;

they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up,

like a garment they will be changed.

But you are the same, and your years will have no end.”

(Hebrews 1:10-12)