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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  Badfish

  Man, the least you could do is READ THE BIBLE.
  God Himself tells you, RIGHT THERE IN YOUR OWN BIBLE—

  You’re being very purposefully selective in the translations you’re quoting. This is a good example of what I said in my previous post—that your carnal mind is at enmity with God, it lays up arguments against God, and it is the place of hostility toward God. When you are at enmity with God, you look to find fault with God.

  The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery. The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is faulty reasoning to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

  The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom he favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against him.

  Isaiah 45:7 contrasts opposites. Darkness is the opposite of light. However, evil is not the opposite of peace. The Hebrew word translated "peace" is shalom, which has many meanings, mostly related to the well being of individuals. Ra’ah, the Hebrew word translated "evil" in the KJV often refers to adversity or calamity. There are two forms of the word. Strong's H7451a most often refers to moral evil, whereas Strong's H7451b (the form used here) most often refers to calamity or distress. Obviously, "calamity" is a better antonym of "peace" than "evil."

  You quoted 10 versions that render the word as “evil” in English. Notice these 20 other versions that translate it differently:

  New International Version
  I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.
  
  New Living Translation
  I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, the LORD, am the one who does these things.
  
  English Standard Version
  I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the LORD, who does all these things.
  
  Berean Study Bible
  I form the light and create the darkness; I bring prosperity and create calamity. I, the LORD, do all these things.
  
  New King James Version
  I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.’
  
  New American Standard Bible
  The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating disaster; I am the LORD who does all these things.
  
  NASB 1995
  The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these.
  
  NASB 1977
  The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these.
  
  Amplified Bible
  The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing peace and creating disaster; I am the LORD who does all these things.
  
  Christian Standard Bible
  I form light and create darkness, I make success and create disaster; I am the LORD, who does all these things.
  
  Holman Christian Standard Bible
  I form light and create darkness, I make success and create disaster; I, Yahweh, do all these things."
  
  Contemporary English Version
  I create light and darkness, happiness and sorrow. I, the LORD, do all this.
  
  Good News Translation
  I create both light and darkness; I bring both blessing and disaster. I, the LORD, do all these things.
  
  GOD'S WORD® Translation
  I make light and create darkness. I make blessings and create disasters. I, the LORD, do all these things.
  
  International Standard Version
  "I form light and create darkness, I make goodness and create disaster. I am the LORD, who does all these things.
  
  Literal Standard Version
  Forming light, and creating darkness, "" Making peace, and creating calamity, "" I [am] YHWH, doing all these things.
  
  NET Bible
  I am the one who forms light and creates darkness; the one who brings about peace and creates calamity. I am the LORD, who accomplishes all these things.
  
  New Heart English Bible
  I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create calamity. I am the LORD, who does all these things.
  
  World English Bible
  I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create calamity. I am Yahweh, who does all these things.
  
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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  Badfish

  This is wicked. This is worse than Demonic. This is the an example of a true Psychopath

  By what standard?

  If we all evolved arbitrarily from a primordial soup with no purpose or design, how is this “wicked,” as you say? How can you say God is “wicked” when you deny the Bible, the very book that defines “wicked?” Even further, in your atheistic, materialistic, and evolutionary worldview, such things are neither right nor wrong because there is no God in your view to establish what is right or wrong. Do you not profess to believe in a naturalistic view where animals rape, murder, and eat their own kind? Yet you attack the loving God of the Bible and try to call him evil?

  But God does exist, and it is God who defines what is good and what is evil.

  God permits evil to exist, but God is not the author of evil.

  “Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.” (1 Chronicles 21:1)

  In order to achieve his purposes, sometimes God sovereignly permits Satan to act. God can use Satan in various ways, with the result being the refining, disciplining, and purification of disobedient believers (Luke 22:31–32; 1 Corinthians 5:1–5; 2 Corinthians 12:7–10). Such might have been the case with David. God allowed Satan to tempt him, and David sinned, revealing his pride, and God then dealt with David accordingly.

  Why, when he was the one who had sinned, did the people have to suffer? He even requested that God’s hand be against him and his family only, and that God would spare the people. But, as with the account of Job, God chose not to give a reason for His actions. Perhaps it was because of Israel’s multiplied sins and rebellion against God throughout the centuries. Perhaps it was a lesson to the people (and to us as well) that the people suffer when their leaders go astray. The reality is that God didn’t justify his actions with a reason, nor does he have to.

  Of the three choices presented to David, the first two would have involved some level of dependency upon the mercy of man: the warfare, of course, would be as severe as the enemy wanted it to be; the famine would require Israel to seek food from other nations, relying on the pity of their neighbors. Instead of relying on the mercy of any human, David chose to rely on the mercy of God—the pestilence was, after all, the most direct form of punishment from God, and in the plague they could only look to God for relief.

  As we see in 2 Samuel 24:16, God was grieved because of the things that were happening to his people, and he called off the punishment. Even in his rebuke God still shows his love and mercy.

  The intent of many of those who make claims like yours — that God is “wicked,” etc. is to make a good God look evil in order to justify their rejection of him, his word, or even his existence. But if God really doesn’t exist and the Bible isn’t his word, then those who attack God and his word by calling him harsh and evil shouldn’t even care to attack him. By attacking him, they show that they know he exists and are simply suppressing that knowledge (see Romans 1:20–25). They are trying to justify their rebellion against God. Few that I have spoken with realize that when they attack God’s character in an effort to make a case against his existence they are refuting their own position.
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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  Badfish

  DisillusionedJW, yes, I’m a five-point Calvinist. But there’s really no point in debating the finer points of theology with an unbeliever when they don’t accept the very foundation — the gospel.

  You say you’ve tried to believe but were never able. There is nothing anyone can say in an appeal to your intellect that would cause you to believe in stories such as animals of all kinds getting on a boat and escaping a massive flood, the sun standing still for a battle, a talking snake in a garden, a talking donkey arguing with a prophet, a burning bush that doesn’t burn up, etc. The ungodly mind is like a brick wall — it has been built to keep God out. Your carnal mind is at enmity with God, it lays up arguments against God, and it is the place of hostility toward God. In order to reach your heart, the only way in is to go around that brick wall and speak directly to your conscience.

  First, you need to become aware of the holiness of God. You also need to see yourself in the mirror, in comparison to God, by seeing how you’ve measured up to his standards in keeping his law. God doesn’t demand that you just try your best or give it your best shot — God demands absolute perfection.

  Once you have become convicted of your complete failure to live up to this standard and your total inability to do so, you might be ready for the gospel. If so, you might be enabled to believe by the power of the Holy Spirit.

  But you will never get anywhere in this regard (except for maybe a false conversion) by debating the existence of God through logic and rationale.

  https://youtu.be/pYZw0dfLmLk
  
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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  Badfish

  WokenfromJWcult
  https://youtu.be/3nmYOQIidqo

  That is Iglesia Ni Cristo, a cult that is very similar to the JWs. Definitely not Christian.

  They got their beliefs from a single charismatic cult leader who claims to have a special revelation from God, and he actually got a lot of his views from JWs.
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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
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  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  Badfish

  What kind of a God who calls himself "Not Partial" ---enable some to believe and some not to believe?"
  Answer; A god who is prejudice!
  Prejudice is an affective feeling towards a person based on their perceived group membership

  God doesn’t enable you to not believe, you do not believe of your own free will. By enabling some to believe, he is having mercy on them. If he gave us all justice, we would all be condemned. He chooses to show mercy to some. Some get justice, others receive mercy. But there is never any injustice with God.

  14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.

  Romans 9:14-16

  A judge who shows mercy to a criminal in one case, but locks up another criminal in another case is not an unjust judge. The act of showing mercy is not an injustice.
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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  Badfish

  PROVE that salvation by a man who died thousands of years ago is a real thing. Show the EVIDENCE!

  There is plenty of eyewitness testimony that establishes it. For example:

  ”3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.“ (1 Corinthians 15:3-8)

  Of course, it’s up to you as to whether or not you believe the evidence (well not really, because if God hasn’t enabled you to believe, you will not believe).
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  What would happen to the Watchtower Org. if the recent UFO sightings were actually aliens ready to take over Earth

  by pistolpete in

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  the past two weeks several ufo sightings.

  navy and pentagon confirm sightings.

  us military is worried because the technology being used to drive these air vehicles are showing no signs of any sort of jet fuel.

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  Badfish

  That's called "Ducking the issue"
  The creation of humans by other mortal beings besides "a Christian God" does not make it mandatory to push for an answer as to who created "those other mortal beings or Creators. Link Dislike Like

  It may not be “mandatory” to push for an answer, but I’m pushing for an answer.

  Explaining away the origin of humans as being created by other space-bound and time-bound, mortal beings — rather than being created by an eternal, immortal being, not bound by time and space — sounds more like “ducking the issue” to me.

  It simply pushes the question of the origin of life one step back. Or maybe you believe the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything.
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  What would happen to the Watchtower Org. if the recent UFO sightings were actually aliens ready to take over Earth

  by pistolpete in

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  the past two weeks several ufo sightings.

  navy and pentagon confirm sightings.

  us military is worried because the technology being used to drive these air vehicles are showing no signs of any sort of jet fuel.

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  Badfish

  The implications being that humans were created by other mortal beings in the Universe with no purpose in mind.
  

  Well then who created those “other mortal beings?”
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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  Badfish

  All religions are either earning rewards in the next life though good deeds/refraining from evil (i.e. JWs), or earning rewards now (i.e. Joel Osteen’s false prosperity gospel).

  Except real Christianity, which has nothing to do with your own works but everything to do with what Jesus has done, where salvation is a free gift that cannot be earned.
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  Do You Think White People Are Being Discriminated Against?

  by minimus in

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  some call it reverse discrimination.

  whatever you want to refer to as, in your opinion, are white people being unfairly picked on?

  it seems acceptable that if you are white you are viewed with disdain.

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  Badfish

  The libs will call you “way-cist” just for making this thread.

  The University of California has declared this statement racist: “There is only one race - the human race.”

  I found this in Dennis Prager’s “Questions to determine if a friend or relative is a liberal or a leftist.” It’s a really good set of questions and puts things into perspective: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/03/02/dennis-prager-questions-to-determine-whether-a-friend-or-relative-is-a-liberal-or-a-leftist-1037116/