What a price to pay for the TTATT! I can sympathize 00Dad. Our stories are very similar, except for the "children" part. Thankfully I had no children. So I can sympathize to some extent. I always used to say (as a joke): If ever they took away my children, there would have been a murder. However, I remain an eternal optimist. I believe the real truth will be victorious in the end. As we know, all that is needed is that trigger, e.g., their involvment with the UN. That was all that was needed to put me in a different trajectory. So never lose hope.
Posts by Vidqun
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29Planning an Escape: Truth Triumphs Over Lies!
by 00DAD inoften during wt/book studies and/or public talks i would be following along and note little discrepancies and inconsistencies.
perhaps it was a scripture that didn't really support the point being asserted in the paragraph or maybe it was an illustration that sounded good but wasn't completely parallel or maybe it was a line of reasoning that wasn't as conclusive or solid as the speaker/elder/co/wt publication made it out to be.
or maybe it was the excessive use of weasel words like, "evidently," "perhaps," "must have" and so on.
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Did Jesus ever use the name Jehovah?
by biometrics inwhile growing up as a jw this was a question i often wondered about: did jesus ever call his heavenly father by the name jehovah?
and if he did, why wasn't it recorded.. i know there's plenty of references such as john 17:6, 26 where it says "i have made your name manifest to the men ...".
however is there anywhere in the bible where jesus used the actual word jehovah?.
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Vidqun
The question should rather be: Did Jesus pronounce the Tetragrammaton? As has been brought out, it is highly unlikely that he would have pronounced it as "Jehovah".
According to the Jewish Talmud, according to uncensored versions, Jesus Christ effected miracles by calling on “the Name”, an indirect acknowledgement that he did use God’s name. He himself declared: “I have made your name known to the people...” (cf. John 17:6, 26; 5:43). Early Coptic texts (Pistis Sophia) tells of Jesus praying to his father by addressing him by various names and incantations: Aeeiouo, Iao, Aoi, and others. In another passage, Jesus addresses his Father in the following names and words: Iao Iouo, Aoi, Oia, and others. This is an indirect indication that he did pronounce God’s Name. What was a popular first century pronunciation of the Divine Name? Norman Walker puts forth a few suggestions:
Aquila’s version, made round about 130 A.D., is remarkable for its Old Hebrew lettering of the Divine Name in the midst of the Greek text. Put into square character, what Aquila wrote was yhyh, Jâh-Jâh [cf. yâh of MT and Greek ’Iá of Aq, Sym, Theod, and Quinta of Origen’s Hexapla], the popular substitute for yhwh “Yahweh”, the ineffable Name, the very naming of which was regarded as blasphemy as far back as the third century BC, if the LXX at Lev. xxiv 16 represents current public opinion.... By the time the Mishna was compiled (c. 190 A.D.) the pronunciation had become practically JeJâ as the form yeyâ shows....
The recovery of a purer Ben Asher Text by KAHLE [KITTEL, Biblia Hebraica (Third Edition, 1945)] reveals that the Divine Name was earlier pointed yehyâh, that is with the vowels of JeJâ and not those of ‘Adhonâi. It seems to me that this vocalization supports the implication of Aquila and the Mishnaic form, namely, that in the first two centuries A.D. at least, if not later, the Divine Name was uttered JehJâh or briefly JeJâ. [i]
[i] N . Walker , “The Writing of the Divine Name in Aquila and the Ben Asher Text”, Vetus Testamentum , vol . III, No. 1, January, 1953, pp. 103, 104 .
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How large is Societies legal department?
by puffthedragon ini was just thinking about the wt attack on education and wondered where they would be without it.. does anyone know how large the legal department is at bethel?
is it larger than the writing department?
service department?
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Vidqun
How can they be against college if they send their own people to attend? I know they did it in the past. This sounds more recent. I agree, a lot of the brothers (and sisters) will not be impressed. I'll try and find out exactly what was said.
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How large is Societies legal department?
by puffthedragon ini was just thinking about the wt attack on education and wondered where they would be without it.. does anyone know how large the legal department is at bethel?
is it larger than the writing department?
service department?
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Vidqun
One of my family members visted the Brooklyn Bethel recently. She spoke to the brothers about their stance on secular education. They informed her that she doesn't have her facts straight. Recently (I don't know how recent) they sent two young brothers from Bethel to university to be qualified as lawyers. My thoughts on the matter: The R&F should not pursue Higher Education for themselves or their children. A different set of standards applies to Bethel.
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Here we go again on "false prophecies"
by booker-t inhi ex-jws on this board.
i have a question that needs answering.
for years i have read on this board ex-jws, born-agains, and other anti-jw group condemn jws for "false prophecies".
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Vidqun
Millions now will never die!
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Vidqun
Millions living now will never die!
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Please someone, explain scientifically how an omnipotent,omniscience,omnipresent,almighty GOD came from nothing
by smiddy inonly scientific responses needed smiddy
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Vidqun
God came into being through the process of abiogenesis.
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Lurker's first post
by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Vidqun
I give up. I'm sure you'll get the general drift.
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Lurker's first post
by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Lurker's first post
by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Vidqun
We have also observed the “placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation” in the ‘setting up’ of a man-made substitute for God’s Messianic kingdom, namely, the League of Nations, in 1919, and its successor, the United Nations, in 1945. (Matthew 24:4-15; Daniel 12:11)
w99 5/1 p. 17 par. 16 “Let the Reader Use Discernment”
Since the start of the great tribulation is yet future, is the “standing in a holy place” still ahead of us? Evidently so. While “the disgusting thing” made its appearance early in this century and has, thus, existed for decades, it will take a position in a unique way “in a holy place” in the near future.
Disgusting Thing Taking Up A Unique Position
When did “the disgusting thing causing desolation” take up a unique position?
To see this, one needs discernment. Not all will see it. On 8 October 2001 the UK-based newspaper The Guardian broke the story of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York enjoying associate member status of the UN’s Department of Information (DPI). Commenting on the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York having been a Non Governmental Organization (NGO) of the UN DPI, Paul Hoeffel, Chief of the NGO section of the Department of Information, reports: “This organization applied for association with DPI in 1991 and was granted association in 1992. By accepting association with DPI, t