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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  Which organism would you like to discuss?
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  Caedes, English is not my mother tongue so I've got to check spelling. As a microbiologist, you constantly do stains, wash slides and cultivate organisms. It's not glamorous at all. The next day you read the plates and identify the organisms. First you look at its colony on the plates. Then you do Gram stains to check whether it is Gram positive or negative. On Gram negatives you do sugar fermetation called API's to identify the organism. Then you prepare the organism on clear plates to check its sensitivity to antibiotics. So, I ask again, what do you expect a Microbiologist to be?
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  EdenOne, good observation. Cofty is the expert. He knows all about it. He insists that that was the place the miracle of life started happening, according to one of the books he read. Alas! The formation of new life forms has not been observed. One would have thought they would be able to replicate the process in laboratory conditions. No luck so far. If they do formulate life, then I would be a believer, but then, I know that it's impossible. Life doesn't work like that. Even if it did, the one-celled organism would have to evolve in multi-celled organisms and complex life forms, another impossibility.
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  A friendly reminder of what a microbiologist is: A microbiologist (from Greek μῑκρος) is a scientist who studies microscopic life forms and processes or works in the field of microbiology. Microbiologists investigate the growth and characteristics of microscopic organisms such as bacteria, algae, fungi, or some types of parasites (Wiki).

  Caedes, what did you think a microbiologist is? Let me tell you about the field. The curriculum starts with Antonie van Leeuwenhoek and the invention of the microscope. He is viewed as the "father of Microbiology." From there you learn about Louis Pasteur and his experiments. Let me tell you about them. He is renowned for his discoveries of the principles of vaccination, microbial fermentation and pasteurization. In his day, the theory of "spontaneous generation" was in vogue. Def. "(Biology) a theory, widely held in the 19th century, but now discredited, stating that living organisms could arise directly and rapidly from nonliving material. Also called Abiogenesis" - The Free Dictionary.

  Pasteur effectively demolished this theory with his sealed and open glass jar experiments. I am sure you are familiar with these. From there you learn of the great lights of Microbiology, such as Ferdinand Cohn and Robert Koch, and about the major breakthroughs in Microbiology, such as Alexander Fleming and his discovery of penicillin. As mentioned, then you study the different bacteria, fungi, and viruses. You also do extensive courses in staining, microscopy, and electron microscopy.

  Interestingly, you touch on the theory of evolution in your studies. Lo and behold! Here the ugly head of "spontaneous generation" pops up with its new name Abiogenesis, a theory that had been efficiently debunked by microbiologists. The only difference between the biologists' theories of evolution and abiogenesis: This does not happen "directly and rapidly," as in "spontaneous generation." This happens over millions of years. However, it is impossible for life of any form to spontaneous generate from non-living matter, we've established that, haven't we?

  Perhaps now you can understand my problem with evolution. If you don't, don't worry about it.
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  Cofty, you're welcome.

  Yes you're right, we live on different planets. You live on a planet, a fantasy land, where everything just happen. Out of basic elements life "came to be." Here life not only appeared out of the blue, it became more complicated as time went on.

  I live on a planet where everything was made. Things were placed there for a purpose. Two different planets altogether.
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  Sorry, I was sidetracked by another matter, as you might have noticed. Back to the business at hand.

  Chance is certainly a factor in evolution, but there are also non-random evolutionary mechanisms. Random mutation is the ultimate source of genetic variation, however natural selection, the process by which some variants survive and others do not, is not random – Berkeley – Understanding Evolution.

  So contrary to your opinion, according to the experts, a certain amount of chance is involved in the process of evolution. Wait, I am for design and against chance. You are supposed to be against design and for chance. But actually you are against chance and against design. This is very confusing. My agent of design is God. Your agent of design, let me see now, the process of natural selection. The mechanism you put your money on, random mutations. So we should not bring abiogenesis into this equation. There it is all chance.

  Cofty: The differences in sequence of cytochrome C between different species.

  Common ancestry or design? You scream common ancestry. It smacks of design to me. The same entity designed life on earth using the same blueprint/template or whatever you want to call it.

  Vidiot, first things first. I refer you to no. 6 in Webster. One is never too old to learn. 6. a process in which the whole universe is a progression of interrelated phenomena - evolutionarily adverb, evolutionary adjective, evolutionism noun, evolutionist adjective. Evolutionism means the whole package and everything related to it. Don’t rely too much on Spellcheckers of Word processing programs. They are not all that good.

  Secondly, it's easy to draw a tree of life on paper. It is not so easy to connect the dots in real life. You'll see there's lots and lots of versions of the tree of life. Few can agree on the details.

  Redpilltwice, I also find it hard to connect the dots from sea creature to land creature back to sea creature (in some cases, e.g., dolphins, whales).

  DJS, Western civilization is based on our Judaeo-Christian-Roman background. That's where our laws and ethics come from, whether you like it or not. Take that away, and what do you have?
  
  
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  JW Headquarters Horror Story

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  i discovered this on youtube, it's quite recent:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cam-nzcaa_q.

  the woman's story sounds believable and credible, but i just don't know.

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  Vidqun

  Sorry, my bullshit meter was not calibrated. It is now.

  
  
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  JW Headquarters Horror Story

  by Vidqun in

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  i discovered this on youtube, it's quite recent:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cam-nzcaa_q.

  the woman's story sounds believable and credible, but i just don't know.

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  Yes, Finkelstein, you're right. She sounded sincere and I fell for it. Another snag in her story is the ghostly cowboy. So, the ghostly cowboy attire would materialize on the demon, etc. She definitely slipped up there.
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  JW Headquarters Horror Story

  by Vidqun in

  1. watchtower
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  i discovered this on youtube, it's quite recent:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cam-nzcaa_q.

  the woman's story sounds believable and credible, but i just don't know.

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  Vidqun

  Yes, it does sound far-fetched, now that I think of it. Because of Russel's links with the Free Masons, one could easily be drawn into believing such accusations, typically the stuff for an elaborate conspiracy theory. Raymond Franz would have mentioned it, even if he suspected such activities. Yes, and Barbara Anderson would be the ideal person to examine her claims and refute them if necessary. Thanks.
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  JW Headquarters Horror Story

  by Vidqun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i discovered this on youtube, it's quite recent:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cam-nzcaa_q.

  the woman's story sounds believable and credible, but i just don't know.

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  Vidqun

  I discovered this on Youtube, it's quite recent:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAm-NZcaa_Q
  

  The woman's story sounds believable and credible, but I just don't know. Her facts are in order and she knew these people personally. Sounds like Free Mason activities? Raymond Franz didn't know. He would have mentioned it in his writings. Perhaps there are some of you that have heard similar rumours? I would appreciate your input. Thanks in anticipation.