Posts by Vidqun

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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

by EdenOne in

as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

Vidqun

Eden, if you can believe any of the above, you can just as well believe in God and the Bible. These actually make more sense. Think of DNA as a manual of how to build a cell/organism. In time minor changes (or mutations) could occur, changing the manual. Major changes (or mutations) would kill off the organism. The manual, as information, cannot arise by itself, from organic or inorganic matter. You need someone to write the manual and its applications.

So how would the sexes originate? The manual needs to be written (programmed) for that. The question is: Who wrote the manual? What the evolutionists are saying: Archaea (basic or simplified organisms) > Eucharyotes (complex organisms) > colony formation > multicelluar organisms > male/female organisms. How would they prove their theory? How would they be able to demonstrate such changes? Archaea > male and female mammal (and everything in between). So far they have been unsuccessful. Wishful thinking if you ask me.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Caedes: Answering any of my questions would be a start because you didn't answer really answer my last question either did you?
I rather suspect that you know you didn't answer it and are hoping that using a very specific example will deflect away from that.
I will ask another question, why should anyone believe what you have to say about micro-biology?

Caedes: Come on Vidqun you can do it, have a go at actually answering a question!
why should anyone believe what you have to say about micro-biology?

Caedes: Come on Vidqun, why should anyone follow your advice? why should anyone believe anything you have to say?

Caedes: Has anyone heard of the phrase 'when you are in a hole it's best to stop digging'? It seems relevant somehow.

Caedes, I actually went to the trouble of checking your last few contributions towards the thread in case I missed something. Actually, I missed nothing. So do follow Cofty's advice and contribute something constructive. If you are incapable of doing that, we'll understand. Not all have good communication skills.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Cofty: Is there even a remote possibility of getting back on topic?

WhatshallIcallmyself, perhaps we should follow Coftys advice and concentrate on the topic. Attempts at character assasination is quite out of place here or anywhere for that matter. I know what a troll is, but what is a Poe? Don't answer, I'd rather not know. It must be something nasty.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Yes, it's a big problem. Imagine treating one of the flesh eating bacteria or TB which are resistant to all known antibiotics. What do you think the prognosis of such a patient would be? I do believe some doctors, especially GPs, are plain stupid, just like you, Viv. Hilarious indeed! You can ridicule all you want, but it's no joking matter.

And thank you Viv, you are a wonderful example of an evolutionist with a bad attitude, trying your best to demean and belittle those that do not share your beliefs. What was that about moving the goalposts and treating the other team as though they do not exist?

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Landy, perhaps one should ask a doctor that question. I don't know why they prescribe antibiotics when patients present with cold or flu symptoms. I know for a fact they do it in my part of the world. I always thought their treatment would be more effective if they first sent in a sputum, nose or throat swab to the lab. There it would be cultivated on blood plates aerobically (for gram negatives, e.g. Klebsiella and Pseudomonas and gram positives, e.g., Staph), anaerobically (e.g., gram negatives: Haemophilus, Neisseria and gram positives: Strep) as well as for fungi (e.g., Aspergillus) and yeast (Candida). The latter two are cultivated on a special yeast plate. ZN stain for TB is done routinely on all sputums. If any one of the above bacteria are cultivated, sensitivities are done. Only then should an antibiotic be administered. Antibiotics would also not be effective againt the fungis and yeasts.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Why don't you Google "Doctors prescribing antibiotics for flu" and see what you get. I got approximately 650 000 results. Here's one in plain English:

Doctors urged to stop prescribing antibiotics for cold and flu - CBS

"Despite years of warnings, doctors still overprescribe antibiotics for acute respiratory infections even though most are caused by viruses that those drugs cannot help. The consequences are serious: overuse of antibiotics is fueling the rise of drug-restant superbugs, and patients can suffer significant side effects from drugs they don't really need."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doctors-urged-to-stop-prescribing-antibiotics-for-colds-and-flu/

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Landy, rather give a sugar-coated pill as placebo. And wait for secondary infection, then prescribe the antibiotic. Perhaps the person gets over the flu without a secondary infection. Then an antibiotic would have been unnecessary.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Cofty, I wager a tenner (10 British Pounds) that they will not be able to work it out that way. My prerequisite, they must be able to replicate the process in a lab. Only then will I become a believer.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

There's a saying: Do not thrown your pearls before the swine. However, as a deluded, wannabee Microbiologist I have the need to be recognized. Also I am a glutton for punishment, so here goes:

Viv, think, read thread, think again (it will be a wonderful new experience for you). Yes, doctors are still prescribing antibiotics for flu. They have been doing it 25 years ago, and they are still doing it. Yes, I know, they are wrong, but they are doing it. Google it and look up the following article:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/prescribing-antibiotics-flu-virus-useless-and-harmful-doctors-keep-doing-it-293564

By the way, what does "faux" mean? Sounds French, falcon perhaps? Don't worry, I've got it. It probably comes from "faux pas" as a social blunder, i.e., blundering Microbiologist.

Don't worry, Cofty and his fellow muckrakers have established, with the help of evolutionary science, that I am no Microbiologist. So that solves that problem. But I have to point out, no matter how much muck you rake or stir, life will not originate from it even if it contains all the ingredients. Life comes from existing life. That fact has been proved by science.

Life spontaneously generates from non-living compounds, organic or inorganic. That fact has not been proved by science. It's an unproven theory. Although a gram stain of faeces is a zoo of bacteria and yeasts, these did not spontaneously generate. They were there in your gut and in the gut of animals to start off with. It is passed on to you by your mother.

Caedes, what's that question again? Please repeat.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

Vidqun

Caedes, not sure which question you want answered. I would have been a much better linguist than a scientist, but my father was a biology teacher and he insisted I do a BSC. My natural disposition would have been languages in which I excelled at school. But he did not want me to become a teacher, etc. And with it all came the Witness thing. My mother was a Witness.

That's one of the problems with the theory of evolution in my opinion, a lack of consensus on the definition. Yes, I know, one of the favorite excuses of evolutionists is the time factor. That's why it remains a theory. It cannot demonstrated.

I have mentioned the Coelecanth and the Horseshoe crab, millions of years old and no change. What happened there? Then there's the development of the horse as an example of evolution. Retired. And the same goes with the development of the whale. Some things are not right there either. So, no, I am not convinced. And the practical implications of an sea animal evolving and becoming a land animal. Then to reverse the process for the land animal to become a whale or dolphin. It strains all credibility.

In the case of Staph. aureus, you incubate the bacterium in a meat broth, then spray it out on a blood agar plate. You place a methicillin resistant disc on the plate. If the organism overgrows the methicillin disc, it is a problem, especially in a hospital environment. Farmers are contributing to the problem by treating their animals (cattle, sheep and chickens) with antibiotics. We are contributing to the problem by using antibiotics and releasing them in the water system through drainage. Doctors are compounding the problem by unnecessarily prescribing antibiotics (e.g., for flu which is caused by a virus). Drug companies do not want to spend millions on an antibiotic that is soon going to become worthless as the bacteria becomes more resistant. So yes, I think hospital infections of super bugs are on the increase and it is going to get worse, before it gets better.