Posts by Vidqun

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"Mother" Teresa—a Fraud?

by Saename in

i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.

moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.

i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.

Rebel8, the Catholic Church viewed Hitchens as a "Devil's Advocate." Question: Why should Mother Teresa not be canonised? To answer the question, he had to give it his best shot. She is being canonised today, so his testimony was rejected.

Mother Teresa's had been at it since 1948. Who in his/her right mind would choose to live in a slum (Calcutta's slums were the worst), working day and night with dying people, the poorest of the poor. This she did for approximately 50 years, dying with her boots on (no retirement for her). No, I think she was an extraordinary woman. Pity about the controversy shrouding her legacy. Here the Catholic Church should shoulder the blame. The rest of us, living in glass houses, should refrain from throwing stones. And talk of being judgmental, let's leave that to the Witnesses. We should be able to rise above that.

Glad to see she was allowed to die in a modern hospital with the best care. That means the Catholic Church looks after its old people. She had to have a Medical Aid to be admitted to a modern hospital. Well, that's much more than the Witnesses can say. They are only to happy to kick the old and sickly to the kerb.

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"Mother" Teresa—a Fraud?

by Saename in

i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.

moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.

i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.

Vidqun

If you as an "untouchable" was lying in the street, dying in your own excrement, it would be a saint that would come and pick you up, take you under roof, wash you, cover you with a gown, put you in a clean bed and feed you. I would be thankful for such a person. By Western standards, that's not much, but for that "untouchable," being allowed to die with dignity, it would certainly be highly appreciated. Would he/she be better off? I think so. So, yes, I do view things differently.

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"Mother" Teresa—a Fraud?

by Saename in

i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.

moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.

i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.

Vidqun

I saw a documentary of her early days. She was so horrified at what was happening to the sickly and poor in Calcutta, she started helping them. She went against her own Mother Superior and some of the priests in charge. She was not popular and they opposed her all the way. As I said: There's always two sides to a story. Here the objective journalist would go to the poor people that received help from her missions. Always good to hear it from the horse's mouth first?

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"Mother" Teresa—a Fraud?

by Saename in

i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.

moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.

i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.

Vidqun

Thanks Hiemere, there is always two sides to a story, depending on who the narrator is. The versions of atheists, Catholics, Protestants and Muslims will differ widely. One will wonder: Are they talking about the same person?

Cofty: Are you suggesting the accounts of the holocaust are American and English lies?

Read again: "If you want to study Hitler and the Nazis...." If I wanted to study Hitler and the Nazis and their effect on the German people, I would ask a German, that were there, first. He would be able to tell it first hand. From there I would examine other sources and compare them with what I know. The Germans did lose the war, you know? So the version of the victor will always be slanted in his favor.

Why don't you study American and British movies of the war, during and after the war? These were not very objective, were they? The Americans and British were the goodies, and the Germans and Japaneses were the baddies.

Who said anything about the holocaust? You are determined to put words in my mouth. Why would you want to do that? Again I ask: Do I spy a measure of bias here?

Finkelstein, who would be in charge of Mother Teresa's missions and financing? She was but a small cog in the Catholic machinery, and she would not be allowed to handle her own finances. The Vatican has specialized people taking care of the finances (similar to the WT Organization). She would get but a small allowance. In one documentary of her early days she complained that she needed more funds to complete her projects.

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"Mother" Teresa—a Fraud?

by Saename in

i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.

moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.

i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.

Vidqun

Cofty, it's like wanting to study Hitler and the Nazis by reading American and English literature on the subject. Hitchens was an atheist and antitheist. One of his books is called: "God is not great. How religion poisons everything." Do I spy a tad bias there? Of course you will believe every word he said/wrote but that's expected.

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"Mother" Teresa—a Fraud?

by Saename in

i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.

moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.

i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.

Vidqun

I remember she was given the Nobel Peace Price for her work. Members of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee usually research the prospective recipients quite thoroughly before awarding their prize. Don't know whether one should judge her character posthumously. On the one hand she was an employee of the Catholic Church and subject of the vagaries of the Vatican. On the other hand she was quite eccentric. She might have started her mission being sincere. As she became more prominent, the Catholic bureaucracy would certainly have misused her for propaganda purposes. They would have decided where the donations would go. However, no-one should question her motives for trying to do good and serving the poorest of the poor. I know I would never be able to do that.

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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

by EdenOne in

as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

Vidqun

Cofty, it's easy to put individual processes into words, then using connectives to put them all together. It's a completely different matter demonstrating the overlapping and/or merging of these processes in real life. I would be interested to see it demonstrated from A-Z.

So, one would have to start by demonstrating the spontaneous generation of living organisms from inanimate matter. From there one would have to demonstrate how these basic life forms, through what you call cell fusion, segregation and recombination, would be forming multi-celled organisms. Yes, endosymbiosis could be demonstrated in existing life forms, but how about demonstrating it all the way (from single cell to multiple celled organisms to complex life forms).

Now to show how these multi-celled organisms would create in themselves specialized functions in order for them to evolve into complex life forms. Complex life forms would then be adapting the processes of mitoses and meiosis, differentiating themselves into multiple sexes. And if scientists would succeed in such a feat, to put it all together and demonstrating it in a lab, they would be called gods, being able to create life.

I don't think the above would ever happen. Here I should add, finding basic life forms, or even the remains of life (i.e., fossils), on other planets, e.g., Mars, would help your cause no end. I predict they will find no life at all. So we will have to wait and see.

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Hypocrisy of the governing body & abuse of J.W.'s

by The Searcher in

here is what the present "faithful & discreet slave" spewed out just a few years ago:.

w06 3/15 p. 24 par.

12 “each one will carry his own load” - "the source of pay and the location of the employment also enter into the picture.

Vidqun

Do what we say. Do not do what we do.

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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

by EdenOne in

as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

Vidqun

if we were deliberately designed by a deity, he'd be an unsupervised six-year-old with ADD who'd gotten ahold of his dad's tools

No, I'm afraid an unsupervised six-year old will not make the grade. Not even a sixty year old will. This cannot be called circular reasoning either, just plain stupid.

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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

by EdenOne in

as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

Vidqun

No, Sheperdless, not only is it the manual of life, it also runs a factory, assembling protein and what not, one that we have not been able to duplicate. It actually has a built-in error correction system. Sorry for that oversight. It is much more than a manual. So, if it is circular reasoning, how would you describe it?