Posts by Vidqun

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"here is the Christ"

by enoughisenough in

i was thinking about the scriptures at matt 24:23-26 .

the time period does appear to be during great tribulation...anyway, it is telling us not to believe it when people are telling us christ is in the wilderness or in his inner rooms.

it would be false christs and false prophets promoting this.

Παρa (alongside, next to) + ουσία (to be): So, not "presence" nor "advent/coming" give the full meaning of the word. As the article brings out, παρουσία incorporates both arrival + presence. The following is what an authoritative dictionary has to say:

Here the Greek noun is παρουσία, translit. parousia. Of Christ, and nearly always of his Messianic Advent in glory to judge the world at the end of the age: Matt. 24:3, 37, 39.
The use of παρουσία has developed in two directions. On the one hand the word served as a sacred expression for the coming of a hidden divinity, who makes his presence felt by a revelation of his power. On the other hand, παρουσία became the official term for a visit of a person of high rank, esp. of kings and emperors visiting a province. These two technical expressions can approach each other closely in meaning, can shade off into one another, or even coincide.
Here the Greek verb is ἔρχομαι, translit. erkhomai. This multipurpose marker is not readily susceptible to precise classification. Of movement from one point to another, with focus on approach from the narrator’s perspective, come: Matt. 24:30; cf. 25:31, 32 (see BDAG).

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"here is the Christ"

by enoughisenough in

i was thinking about the scriptures at matt 24:23-26 .

the time period does appear to be during great tribulation...anyway, it is telling us not to believe it when people are telling us christ is in the wilderness or in his inner rooms.

it would be false christs and false prophets promoting this.

Vidqun

An alternative explanation: I interpret it literally. I believe the arrival of the two witnesses lies in the future. Their public ministry is to last three and a half years. Under no circumstances should one follow them around. There are indications that that could be a dangerous pursuit. Eventually they are to be killed. Their message will make them very unpopular with the authorities. Also, they will be able to work miracles (Rev. 11:3-8). This might be confused with the return of the Christ. Matthew (24:23-27) therefore warns not to chase after such sightings. It could cost you your life (cf. Luke 17:22, 23).

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Could the WT org. Be in on the "great reset"?

by nowwhat? in

the org.

was all too willing to emphasize to the government - especially the left that they very obedient to the calls for mask, vaccine, and lockdown mandates.

those that know about the great reset know what i'm talking about.

Vidqun

The Watchtower did join the UN as an NGO, contrary to their teachings, even if it was only for a few years.

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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

by Mikejw in

here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

Vidqun

Jan, unfortunately the data and graphs don't lie. I am sure you didn't watch the video. Don't blame you. It's downright depressing.

Can you trust the NHS? Ask those that were infected with tainted blood in the seventies and eighties. The survivors are being paid out only now. Anna Marina, if anyone knows about the huge British stocks of Midazolam used up during the endemic, it would be you. Do tell.

The British used the euthansia method. Como of New York sent the Covid patients back to the Old Age Homes. Different method, same outcome.

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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

by Mikejw in

here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

Vidqun

https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/409269/data-suggests-sudden-adult-death-syndrome-due-to-vaccines/

What could be the reason? No, don't ask your doctor. He/she is most likely susidized by Pfizer. Ask your local undertaker:

https://www.thevoid.uk/void-post/funeral-director-john-olooney-shows-blockages-removed-from-blood-vessels-of-man-who-suddenly-died/

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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

by Mikejw in

here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

Vidqun

All-cause mortality rates. Guess whose dying off the most.

https://excessburden.substack.com/p/ons-data-update-6-july-2022

It's an epidemic of coincidences.

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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

by Mikejw in

here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

Vidqun

Here's a video documenting some of the deaths. Warning: Quite depressing.

https://rumble.com/v1dvc6n-1000-athletes-collapsing-dying-heart-problems-blood-clots-march-2021-to-jun.html

Here's a list of Olympians that have recently died (till May 2022):

https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/recent_deaths

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

Vidqun

Enoughisenough, don’t know whether this will help. According to this German dictionary, John’s resurrection and Matthew’s judgment is not the same thing. The context differs. Bottom line, the Society's 1914 beliefs do not make sense. Jesus will only start his 1000 year reign when Satan is bound (Rev. 20:3, 4):

Resurrection (John)

"The juxtaposition of "resurrection to life" and "resurrection to judgment" in John 5:29 speaks of the eschatological resurrection of all who are in the grave and the eschatological judgment by the Son of Man. Since there is a certain tension between this and the realized eschatology asserted in vv. 24f., it is often judged to be an interpolation (by the author or a redactor). However, future eschatology is to be found also in the speech about bread in John 6 (also in interpolations?) where ἀνίστημι (used trans.) clearly denotes Jesus as the originator of eschatological resurrection: "I will raise him up at the last day" (6:40, 44, 54, cf. v. 39). In 11:24 Martha understands Jesus' promise of resurrection for Lazarus in an eschatological sense: "he will rise again in the resurrection [figura etymologica] at the last day." Jesus corrects this hope by referring to himself as "the resurrection and the life" (v. 25); i.e., in Johannine language, he is in his own person the cause and embodiment of what is hoped for in the form of resurrection and а ζωή. Whoever believes in him has a share in it now already and, indeed, forever."

Judgment (Matthew)

Difference here is that those in Tyre, Sidon, Nineveh, Sodom and the Queen of Sheba were ignorant, whereas the religious leaders were not.

"Jesus' statements regarding those who refuse his message of salvation speak of the eschatological judgment ("the day of judgment"). Such people have a greater responsibility than the prototypical places of sin and Gentile cities (Sodom, etc.) and than the queen of the South (Matt 10:15; 11:22 par. Luke 10:14; Matt 11:24; 12:41, 42 par. Luke 11:31, 32)." See EDNT.

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

Vidqun

Enoughisenough, good question. In the end each one must examine the evidence and decide for himself. Hopefully we'll soon find out. Here's the relevant scriptures:

Set day, man appointed to judge: Acts 17:31 = 1000 years (Rev. 20:3, 4) Kings/priests to judge 1000 years.

Judgment Day: Matt. 10:15; 11:22; 11:24; 12:36 = 1000 years (?)

Each to render an account: Rom 14:12 (Rev. 20:12, 13) (?)

Resurrect him in the last day: John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 7:37; 11:24; 12:48 = 1000 years (?)

Note, "judgment day" occurs only in Matthew, each time in a similar context. John uses the "last day," also in the same context. Only one I am sure of, is the first, Acts 17:31. This fits in with Rev. 20:3, 4. Really not sure about the rest. Daniel will be resurrected "at the end of days," when our history stops and the new history begins, probably at the beginning of the 1000 years (Dan. 12:13).

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

Vidqun

What might solve your problem is if there are two resurrections. Here's my understanding of the resurrection:

1) First resurrection: The first resurrection, also referred to as the “earlier resurrection” (cf. Phil. 3:10, 11 Roth), is an important chronological marker (1 Cor. 15:51-53; 1 Thes. 4:15-17; Rev. 6:11; 11:1, 14, 15, 18; 20:4-6). It will be initiated in the time of the seventh and last trumpet (Rev. 11:15, 18). Next in line are the two witnesses who are publically resurrected (Rev. 9:11; 11:3, 11, 12). Last group is to be caught up in the air during Jesus’ Second Coming. They will have no advantage over those resurrected earlier. Although the time frame for their ascent will differ, they will receive the same reward (Matt. 24:29-31; 1 Thes. 4:15-17 CSBO).

2) Second resurrection: This is to take place during the Millennium (Dan. 12:13; John 5:28, 29; Acts 24:15; Rev. 20:11-14). Rev. 20:5a is out of place here and appears to be a later insertion. The verse is omitted by various MSS (NA28 Apparatus). Jesus referred to judgment and resurrection “in the last day.” This must refer to the Millennium, which forms part of the Lord’s Day (John 6:44; 12:48; 2 Cor. 15:23-28; Rev. 1:10; cf. 2 Pet. 3:8).