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  Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.

  mark jones writes:.

  if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

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  Vidqun

  Thanks Road to nowhere, I knew it had to be something like that. Judge, jury and executioner, like Judge Dredd.
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
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  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  Icarter, the fact that you're alive and functioning should be good news. Many were not so lucky. There's quite a few spike protein detox plans available. I cannot recommend any specific one, but it's worth while trying them out. Most use natural supplements, so will not cause further harm. Dr. McCollough promoted Japanese Nattokinase, the only substance that he knows that binds spike protein. N-acetyl cystein slows the spread. Quercitin is a natural COVID defense. Here's one on fasting:

  
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  Vidqun

  Icarter, no they have cracked the genetic code and can manipulate it to their heart's content by means of CRISPR gene editing tools. That is not the end of it. To top it all, researchers have discovered DNA plasmid contamination in Moderna and Pfizer vials. These also have the potential of binding with DNA. This might be residue from the production process, or RNA strings that connect, forming plasmid rings. Here's an example of a plasmid.

  https://osf.io/b9t7m/

  
  
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  Vidqun

  Here's an intersting Swedish study where the m-RNA reverse transcribed in liver (cancer) cell lines. The potential is therefore there to reverse transcribe into the DNA of normal liver cells.

  
  
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  Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.

  mark jones writes:.

  if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

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  Vidqun

  I know of a Witness asking the elders to be reinstated after a few monthis. Elder told her, we will decide when to reinstate you. Were they not happy with her measure of repentance? Is there a Witness time limit on repentace?
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  Did Isaiah even predict Cyrus' name 150 years ago?

  by pokertopia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did isaiah even predict cyrus' name 150 years ago?.

  there were two types of prophets: individual prophets and court prophets.

  for example, before ahab went to war, 400 court prophets predicted ahab's victory, but michaya, an individual prophet, predicted his defeat.

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  Vidqun

  Let's qualify. He was an eyewitness of events. Anyway. He was close to the action and you and I are very far from it. I believe he was an honorable man and you can believe whatever you want.
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  Did Isaiah even predict Cyrus' name 150 years ago?

  by pokertopia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did isaiah even predict cyrus' name 150 years ago?.

  there were two types of prophets: individual prophets and court prophets.

  for example, before ahab went to war, 400 court prophets predicted ahab's victory, but michaya, an individual prophet, predicted his defeat.

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  Vidqun

  The claims are made. I see the results from those claims. In Ezra's case, he reported the history of the repatriation step by step. He was there as an eyewitness. His account follows the course of general history as was handed down to us. But in this one instance he would lie?

  Same goes for Josephus. He wrote up history to the best of his ability. But in this one instance he would fabricate the evidence by quoting myth. If you follow his writings, you will realize he was too proud to sully his reputation by publishing untruths or myths. He reported at the time that one could visit a tower Daniel had built which served as the burial place of kings. His countrymen and the Romans would have ridiculed him if he lied.

  264 Now when Daniel was become so illustrious and famous, on account of the opinion men had that he was beloved of God, he built a tower at Ecbatana, in Media: it was a most elegant building, and wonderfully made, and it is still remaining, and preserved to this day; and to such as see it, it appears to have been recently built, and to have been no older than that very day when anyone looks upon it, it is so fresh, flourishing, and beautiful, and no way grown old in so long time;
  265 for buildings suffer the same as men do, they grow old as well as they, and by numbers of years their strength is dissolved, and their beauty withered. Now they bury the kings of Media, of Persia, and Parthia in this tower, to this day, and he who was entrusted with the care of it was a Jewish priest; which thing is also observed to this day. (Ant 10:264-265 JOE)
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  Did Isaiah even predict Cyrus' name 150 years ago?

  by pokertopia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did isaiah even predict cyrus' name 150 years ago?.

  there were two types of prophets: individual prophets and court prophets.

  for example, before ahab went to war, 400 court prophets predicted ahab's victory, but michaya, an individual prophet, predicted his defeat.

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  Vidqun

  Lot of hearsay there. You have not proved your point. I hear what you are saying, just the proof is lacking. In general, Ezra and Josephus are reliable. I allow them the benefit of the doubt. Indirect proof is the survival and repatriation of the Jews and the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the temple. The fine detail of what happened we will hopefully find out one day. For the time being I work with, not what I surmise, but with what I have.
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  Did Isaiah even predict Cyrus' name 150 years ago?

  by pokertopia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did isaiah even predict cyrus' name 150 years ago?.

  there were two types of prophets: individual prophets and court prophets.

  for example, before ahab went to war, 400 court prophets predicted ahab's victory, but michaya, an individual prophet, predicted his defeat.

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  Vidqun

  How sure are you that your sources are not biased? I know Grabbe is super-biased. His view is that fundamentalist Christians cannot be objective scholars because they are proving a given fact, i.e., for example the inerrancy of prophecy. But is that not exactly what you and Grabbe are doing, proving a given fact, i.e., the errancy of prophecy.

  Let me make it easy for you. You have to choose one of these. I know which you will choose, but that's your prerogative. I'll go with Mary Joan.

  Professor Lester L Grabbe argues that there was no decree but that there was a policy that allowed exiles to return to their homelands and rebuild their temples. He also argues that the archaeology suggests that the return was a "trickle", taking place over perhaps decades, resulting in a maximum population of perhaps 30,000. Philip R. Davies called the authenticity of the decree "dubious", citing Grabbe and adding that arguing against "the authenticity of Ezra 1.1–4 is J. Briend, in a paper given at the Institut Catholique de Paris on 15 December 1993, who denies that it resembles the form of an official document but reflects rather biblical prophetic idiom." Mary Joan Winn Leith believes that the decree in Ezra might be authentic and along with the Cylinder that Cyrus, like earlier rulers, was through these decrees trying to gain support from those who might be strategically important, particularly those close to Egypt which he wished to conquer. He also wrote that "appeals to Marduk in the cylinder and to Yahweh in the biblical decree demonstrate the Persian tendency to co-opt local religious and political traditions in the interest of imperial control." (Wikipedia)
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  Did Isaiah even predict Cyrus' name 150 years ago?

  by pokertopia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did isaiah even predict cyrus' name 150 years ago?.

  there were two types of prophets: individual prophets and court prophets.

  for example, before ahab went to war, 400 court prophets predicted ahab's victory, but michaya, an individual prophet, predicted his defeat.

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  Vidqun

  Nothing the Bible or Josephus says, contradicts available evidence. The Jews were free from captivity and the temple was rebuilt. Same as what happened in Babylon. Can you see the pattern?

  This was in order to quell social unrest, for the same reason that Cyrus dedicated a temple to Marduk in Babylon.

  Does the burden on proof not fall on you to prove or disprove what we say? I give you the necessary facts from my sources. Are you able to refute it in any way? If not, sit out.