Back to the thread, if you take a life, for whatever reason, that is the ultimate sacrifice. Even if you as a normal person had to take an ailing or old pet to the vet to be euthanized, or kill an animal for food, you'll know what I am talking about. If you never had to do that, good for you, ignorance is bliss.
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51Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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Vidqun
Yo, Shirley, use your imagination. Jump into a time machine and go and visit them. See what your 21st century values would mean to them. They would shoot you ass...
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Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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Vidqun
If you live in North America, that's what your forefathers did to the Indians. If you live in South America, that's what the Spanish did to the Incas. If you live in Australia, that's what the English did to the Aborigenes. If you live in South Africa, that's what the whites did to the blacks. More recently, that's what the Nazis did to the Jews. Just the other day, that what the Hutus did to the Tutsis in Rwanda. And that is what the Israelis is doing to the Palestinians right now. In my mind, all of these should be condemned. Why single out the ancient Jews?
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Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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Vidqun
Kill or be killed. You were surrounded by Amelikites, Hittites, Philistines, etc. who wanted you dead, raid your larder, kill your sons and take your women. That was then. Similar things are happening today. Nothing has changed. Who are we to judge them?
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Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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Vidqun
Defender, you are placing your 21st century values on people that lived thousands of years ago. Things were a bit different then. Rather not judge, and you will not be judged. As far as I know, they ate the meat. Only the fat they burnt. Not much different to what we are doing today.
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Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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Vidqun
Funny thread, this one, criticizing Biblical sacrifice. And how many animals are we killing off every day for food? Shooting it in the head or slitting its throat, not much difference there. How many are killed off by hunters? And we are supposed to be civilized? Those Biblical numbers pale into insignificance when you compare them to current trends. The ordinary Israelite, most of them farmers, knew what the word sacrifice meant, I can assure you. Those of us that grew up on a farm, also know what sacrifice means, killing off an animal that you had as a pet. Sacrifice for the rest is jumping into a car and buying lots of stuff at the supermarket, including meat. Not the same thing. So, we don't have that much to be proud of either.
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I am Back on JWN and out of hospital
by KateWild inhey everyone,.
thanks qcf and nugget for starting threads.
thanks cofty for wondering where i was.
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Vidqun
Good to hear you're up and about again. Enjoy the holiday, and forget about everything. A few martinis might help (but not with medication)...
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Solomon's Temple was there one??
by Crazyguy inits interesting to find out that there is no evidence of king david or his son solomon.
what about this amazing temple that solomon supposedly built??
there is no arcylogical evidence that it ever excisted either.
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Vidqun
What about continuity? Where did the Jews come from? They must have started somewhere? Their history is found in the Bible. How factual is its contents?Somewhere along the line they became a nation, making its mark in history. Perhaps some of the Bible writers did exagerate? Perhaps we read into the Bible account more than necessary. However, we shouldn't compare our situation with days of old. Jerusalem, as a city, was well known, even in days gone by. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
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Kate Wild
by quellycatface ini've been given permission to post news of our friend.. kate hasn't been very well.
not well at all.
i think much of it has been a delayed reaction to her df'ing, the general fallout when leaving the wtbs and family issues.. i just wanted to give you guys the heads up and give you a chance to show how much we care about her.. thanks for listening..
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Vidqun
Kate, hope you are fighting fit real soon. Painful, now, and confusing, I know only too well. But always ask yourself: Am I doing the right thing? Being a self-centered hypocritical JW is definitely not the right thing.
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one reason for the dumbing down of the org
by Magnum ina lot of us have said that theres been a dumbing down in jw land.
its just not like it used to be especially a few decades ago.
it seems to me that if jw are right and the end of the world is near, the spiritual food should get tastier and more nourishing as time goes on, but it's getting more and more bland and less nourishing.
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Vidqun
I wondered about that while I was in. In one of the publications I read that the obligation of the GB towards the R&F is that they will only dispense basic Bible knowledge. That is their obligation. So they will only dispense "milk" for the new ones. If you want "meat," you must fend for yourself. What they didn't say, for all the Beroeans out there that want to advance their studies, check the food, and question everything, those will be kicked out and branded as apostates. You must not go beyond the things that are written (in the Shepherd the Flock-book).