"Is this Bus # 7?" (Bus # 7 clearly marked on bus for all to see). People will do this-no matter what-same thing as u saw someone push the elevator , but u push it again-
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Stupid Questions
by scumrat inhow do you respond to stupid questions?
do you honor them with an answer or do you just ignor them?
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Assembly picketing
by freedom96 in.
when i went to the assemblies, i would see people picketing, holding signs up, etc.
you would have "security" to look out for green bibles, and keep opostates out.. i never looked at them with hatred, never really gave it much thought at all.. i am curious if anyone here has participated in protesting the assemblies, and what were the reactions?
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From the other side-we were alawys warned that there would likely be pickerts there and to not look at them and never say a word to them. I personally never ever looked at xjw materail until i got my computer and felt it waas some what safer. I ever bought the Franz book once and threw it away so fearful was i to incur Jehovah's warth. I still have not read that book.
I occ saw someone who did talk to the apostates but usaully they were new in truth. belive me if anyone had seen us talking to them-we would have beeen big time counseled.
Actaully, the only hope u have at those assembiles is getting some new person to look at eh stuff. Dyed in the wool jw would never look at it-even if they were curious. They would get in trouble.
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Your favorite Witness?
by larc inwho was your favorite witness?.
mine was john richards.
when i got to know him, he was an old man, and our theocratic ministry school servant.
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To the 30ish couple with kids of their own, who took my young teen child with them on an overnighter camp out. They had to make a quick return when my son was found to a a knife in his possession. They sttill took him. I know many who would not have.i thank them for not be too judgmental.
BTW-my son eventually got ok and now is GREAT.
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No Reply From Bowen
by BB inthe silentlambs link below no longer works (at least its not working for me).
is anyone else having trouble accessing the site?.
also, ive been considering attending the march on the 27th but have had no reply from bowen (or anyone else) in regards to the several emails ive sent.
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Biol will answer-he's always replied to me. I have a quesrion? Some have mentioned siging the questnook-i would love to but can't find it. Now i ham puter literte-but i see not link for it. could someoen tell me hwo to get to the quest book?
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Abuse in other religions?
by wednesday ini have been a jw all my life and i'm in mid to late 40's.
i've seen much abuse.currently i am inactive/attend occ meeting.. my husband who is also a jw and attends some meetings but has been inactive in service for some time due to depression.not at all responsive to me talking to him about this site.he defends jw to the end.my question has to do with other religions than jw.
my husband says that issues like child molestation/ abuse and rape have not generally been dealt well with by anybody until lately.i am from texas and here the baptist and church of christ are major religions.
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Lin, i read your life story and was very touched by it. I too am victim/survivor of incest(my fther age 3), and rape by a JW bro in which they df me and let him go free. He raped again. Then they df him and later reinstate him. He moves on-with no one to know he is rapist. The years of depression and illness i have suffeerd b/c of this-well it too is long story.Also i was molested by a friend(not jw) faather while at a sleepover.
What my husband has said that until recently-the victim was alway the blame-n matter what releigion u where in. woman /children were second class citizens.At the time i was raped-i was told to not report it-a vile thing on the part of JW. But truly-it was in the 70's , i would have not gotten much justice anyway. But it might have alerted the police and stopped him form raping agian. it would have been deemed "i did something to deserve it" Look at the movies form that time period. Woman hardly reported it-b/c they could not get justice.I t has taken the womans movement to help that cause. As far as child abuse--I'm old enough to remember that children were always spanked and treated badly.children are to be seen and not heard. thank God we havve people who are willing to stand up for the most defeneless of all-our children.Now i want u to know my husband does not agree with what happen to me.he himself, was raped by worldly babysitter at tender age. So it can happen to men also.His jw parents jsut blew it off when told them about 5 yrs ago. I think generally the feeling at time years ago-no one beleived the child or woma
I am in full support to of Bill Bowen-he is a wonderful person for stnding up and saying-we must not prtoect the abusier.
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Abuse in other religions?
by wednesday ini have been a jw all my life and i'm in mid to late 40's.
i've seen much abuse.currently i am inactive/attend occ meeting.. my husband who is also a jw and attends some meetings but has been inactive in service for some time due to depression.not at all responsive to me talking to him about this site.he defends jw to the end.my question has to do with other religions than jw.
my husband says that issues like child molestation/ abuse and rape have not generally been dealt well with by anybody until lately.i am from texas and here the baptist and church of christ are major religions.
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I have been a JW all my life and i'm in mid to late 40's. I've seen much abuse.Currently i am inactive/attend occ meeting.. My husband who is also a JW and attends some meetings but has been inactive in service for some time due to depression.Not at all responsive to me talking to him about this site.He defends JW to the end.My question has to do with other religions than JW. My husband says that issues like child molestation/ abuse and rape have not generally been dealt well with by anybody until lately.I am from texas and here the baptist and church of christ are major religions. he contends that their record is probably jsut as bad, and soemone from those churches probably would not have received fair treatment either. He says it has always been the victim to blame utnil recently. I do know that some of the people i grew up with went to some pretty strict churches(no tv, music make up dancing parties etc. ) This is actaully fairly common around here. Our neighbors are not supposed to watch TV. (they do) I'm prety sure these religions don't have a diwsfellowship clause though. but it is probable that if a member wher to wear make up they might be shunned or counseled. i once knew a catholic who lead a life similiar to some of our stories. She would not get married b/c the church forbid birth control. she would not go against it. It has ruined her whole liefe. She suffered vefey mucjh from depression.
ny thoughts form anyone about how other religions deal with breaking the rules
I am victim of both incest and rape by jw brother.
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WHAT MAKES YOU THE ANGRIEST?
by minimus inat times we all get angry.
sometimes our anger is inappropriate, as when a parent loses control and beats their child.
there are situations that may rightfully get us angry.
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I think the unequal way discipline and punishment are administered. As one poster said-if u are SOMEONE u can do just about anything and get by with a slap on the wrist. Right up there with this is the way depressed or mentally ill are treated -being viewed as spiritualy weak persons(i know there has been new light on that-but in general that are still treated as second class JW).but the worst of all is the ever chnaging light that affects our elationship with our family who may be not jw or df da. I reuse to shun my family-never have and never will. it is wrong and nothing justifes it.
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JEHOVAH'S WITNESS TYPES
by Deli King inhow many of the following types did you have in your home cong.?
the leader(s).
(this is the only one not likely to be found in the local congregation, at least not for long.
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What about the "just can't get it right" jw? This person probalby has been df several times , and just keeps screwing up. Some having been born into truth, just keep coming back because they don't realize they can leave rather than subject themselfs to continued humilation. Some who fall into this group are the "week women loaded down with sins".
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Starting studies not a priority
by La Capra inmy best friend got to see something that i would have loved to see.
he manages a gas station and mini-mart, and he is in the enviable position of being on someone's magazine route.
i have been nagging him to bring me the magazines, but he keeps forgetting.
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I stopped service a long time before i quit attending on regular basis. I was determined i not be party to letting the elders destroy anyone else's life as they had mine. I remember times in years gone by when i felt happy in service-especially when i was able to use bible to answer questions.But toward the end-i quit studying, service and missed most meeting. I would go over my weekly schedule while the talk was being given and the WT was the hardest to get through. I did not study so i did not undetand anything toward the end. what i used to know-well it has drifted away"the leaky vessel theroy". My son asked me who the anti chirst was yesterday and i couldn't tell him.. I had not read anything deep in so long-can't remrber "the deep things"Actually, when i disvovered i had lost my knoweldee of jw teachings(except for most basic) i asked for help-but was turned down"always leaning but never able to come to an accurte knnowlege of God" was what they told me. How judgemental can u get.
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A complex question who of you knows the answer?
by MARTINLEYSHON inif baptism washes away your sins, as taught by jws, what prevents a disfellowshiped person who has moved to a new area and is not known in that area in attending meetings as an interested person and getting baptised within 6 months.. has anyone ever done that?
if so can the person be disfellowshipped a second time?
what would be his status.
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having been in the org since the 50's , i feel sure it has been done. I think it would be much harder to do it now with the increased ability to keep track of records etc. These stories used to be circulated i think to instill fear in peope-don't mess with jehovah-he will track u down and find u no matter were u go. Some may even be JW urban legands.I was baptised in 60's at a very tender age. Even then i knew it was a request for a good conscience. That was said over and over again in the talk preceding the dedication questions-that this does not wash away sins. wednesday
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