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Regardles the game you are trying to play on this board i will, not too serious, say this (and if you do not respond is ok too you are not the only one reading):

You as the WT is taking a 'legalistic' aproacho to the issue. Who told you this must be analyzed from your point of view? According to WT what is HIS (GOD) point of view?

After all, this a religious issue, state 'LEGAL' system and religion do not mix.
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No paper proof, but if a jw is seen going in and out of Catholic church, what do you think it will happen?
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If you decide to use Bin Laden's library and share with him some concerns and publish some articles about his ideology, What do you think most people think of you, specially Mr. Bush?

Even if you did not sign any papers or agreement.

You work for Bush and he told you not even to speak to Bin, "unclean"
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BTW i just decided to become friend to a big mafia guy and his group, no sginatures, i do nothing wrong, just friends. BTW i don't like him and his group, they all should be seated in electric chairs. In fact my father will do it without my help, i will be standing by, my r&f friend know that. But my R&F friends dont know i visit the guy and his group...
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I was even afraid to pass by the UN building, why?
Churches? i would rather use the other side walk when passing by....
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Oh why dont you go vistit other woman and dont tell your wife, she will find out in ten years, not because you told her.

I now you did not go to bed with the other women. So your wife should not complaint, if she does i will ask her why is she complaining now, in fact you two are divorced at present (ten years later)...

Your wife also knows that the other woman likes to go to bed with male prostitutes. But you only visited her library and the laundry, never the bedroom nor signed any papers.

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Any women here? what do you think?

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Press release: WT human rights violation

by Dogpatch in

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hello randy,.

the human rights organization i am affiliated is sending out this press release on human rights violation by the jehovah's witnesses.

it cites several united nation human rights documents.---john brown.

one

The guy is heading in the right direction.

UN
HUMAN RIGHTS
Public Media

btw what is the line dividing religion from (you guess)

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verbal V's written . arguments / debates

by sleepy in

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i have become quite frustrated recently.. why is it so difficult to prove or reason on a point with someone who holds a opposite viewpoint?.

you can recite the known facts of a situation over and over but some people will not get it.. being able to articulate a point clearly to another person and for them to understand can seem like a black art.. this is much worse in a verbal debate.it is hard when talking with someone to disscus a subject properly.. you start of on one point and before you know it the conversation has moved off in another tangent.. this is why i feel written aurguments hold more weight.you can not change the subject .also it is more vital that you get your facts right in written articles as people are more likely to check where as in a verbal disscusion it is easy say something you know is not provable or valid in the heat of the moment.. but you've got to get the person then to read , that can often be harder than getting them to converse with you.. so what do you think which is the better method of getting a point accross verbal or written.. (god i'm bad at spelling)

one

why do you think even a Supreme Court exist in most countries?

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Zev's UN/WTS Scandal Web Site - Part 2

by hawkaw in

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http://www.geocities.com/plowbitch69/.

over 1,440 hits in a few weeks..

woooooohoooooo!!!!!

one

Zev.

I just went to your site for a minute. Your site is ok for you and me, but for jw and general public i am not sure.

A good approach would be to present the facts, mainly references, and let people make their opinion.

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Zev's UN/WTS Scandal Web Site - Part 2

by hawkaw in

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http://www.geocities.com/plowbitch69/.

over 1,440 hits in a few weeks..

woooooohoooooo!!!!!

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Josehp Alwardl,

1. when the articles started to come out after 1991 there was no INTERNET

1.1 when the internet BECAME a reality most likely some commented about the UN on H2O forum BUT THERE WAS TOO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT

2. JW are always scare to ask too many questions

3. ex-jw do not exist as far as WT and jw is concerned

4. I do remember a DO commenting "this is just the begining" when i asked him about the "generation" in 1995

5. It has been said on this board that someone published a book or a pamphlet about the UN issue years ago,

6.The WT 'articles' were strange even shocking to me, i had the opportunity to read some but did not pay too much attention, had more important things to do, i knwe it was a matter of time before thing started to happen.

7. I wrote to the GB many years ago, still wating for an answer. It was about something else but that gives you an idea of what to excpect if you raise an issue.

sorry, in a few words what is your point again?

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Zev's UN/WTS Scandal Web Site - Part 2

by hawkaw in

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http://www.geocities.com/plowbitch69/.

over 1,440 hits in a few weeks..

woooooohoooooo!!!!!

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Zev,

I have not seen your site yet. One of the reason is that i understand you were still working on it.

Keep in mind to "understimate" what people and jw know about the WT and UN.

'Said' as litle as posible. Avoid complicated language. One or two pictures will help.

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Zev's UN/WTS Scandal Web Site - Part 2

by hawkaw in

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http://www.geocities.com/plowbitch69/.

over 1,440 hits in a few weeks..

woooooohoooooo!!!!!

one

The problem with Josehp Alwardl:

He is not a jw or ex-jw

He has not read or know what the WT had said or written about the UN, specially prior to 1991
What the UN represents,
What God will do to the UN
and How
neutrality
Actitude toward anything "unclean"

What the WT has written about the UN after 1991
It did not fit, but nobody knew what was going on,
WT was carefull to please (they had to) the UN without
alerting the jw with the info published in articles after 1991.

What real need there was to get an UN library card?

WT complied with UN requirements about publishing etc, right? but resigned because was not aware of what? They read only part of the fine print when joining.

As anyone familiar with the WT knows, they are VERY carefull about anything they do, specially in a case like this. THEY HAD AN AGENDA.

That is why web sites relating to UN scandal have to be very well written, even many JW have a hard time understanding the issue. Old timers will "see" it much better.

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2/3 of all JW's are women and what it implies

by Mindchild in

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a few weeks back, kinsman posted a link about a recent survey of religion in america which showed that 68% of all jehovah's witnesses were female, which is the highest ratio of women to men in any religion in the usa.. i believe the reason for this unbalance in adherents in favor of women comes down to two fundamental reasons.

the first is shunning and the second is the appeal of the "family type atmosphere" that the witnesses pretend to offer.. we all know the power of shunning keeps a lot of people trapped inside the collective, and just due to the fact that women are enculturated more with having emotional bonds with others, makes it a bit tougher to leave family and friends behind.

this doesn't mean that men don't suffer emotionally, but the general trend is more for men to suppress their feelings and damn the emotional torpedoes and go full speed ahead out of the bad dream.. this suggests to me, that if there is a major modification of the shunning policy, the largest exodus will be in the female ranks.

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Partially because from the star men know that the will have to :

1. give up smoking

2. ocasional sex out of marriage, as single or already marired, a long time (man) tradition. Ask Clinton

3. drinking at the bar when bored at home

4..selling mag/ preaching, hell no

5 no bad words in his vocabulary,
how people are going to know i am a man in charge?, danm it

an so on