Posts by Whynot

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses selfish??

by stuckinarut2 in

is the average jehovah's witness selfish and self-centred?.

i know, i know...many will object and say "no - preaching is the most selfless thing a jw can do.

it saves others lives...".

Whynot

I think the best way to really know who is truely selfless is by looking at who is there for you when you ask for help.

You WILL find some JWs that are selfless but most will not even bother with you. JWs are conditioned to judge and condemn. It's sad. I have seen it and experienced it.

The times they may actually show up is if they announce on the platform that someone needs help and have someone arrange to offer help.

I have many, many stories to tell about this but I will just mention one. An elder got very sick and was on bedrest for about 6 months. This elder I must say is a pretty decent human. Everybody loves him and his wife. But when he was sick and couldn't move, no-one called nor passed by to see how he was doing.

I was starting to fade but I knew about this. I was very pregnant and couldn't do much for them (just food and take out trash) but I got PISSED when I found out that NO-ONE else was calling or visiting. Oooh! I grabbed my phone and called the elders and was a bit harsh but I told them that they needed to give him attention! I also firmly suggested that they make arrangemebts to help this elderly couple.

Next meeting, they DIDN'T! So I took matters in my own hands and spoke to the pioneers and asked them to please pass by and help this elder and his wife. Finally they made arrangements. Geesh!

This really made me mad. I still get mad when I think about it. But it shows how the JWs just don't have focus on what it means to help your neighbor, and look for opportunities to show true Christian love. The focus is on making your hours, and meetings.

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1st Birthday Celebration

by Whynot in

you guys!

our first birthday celebration was a total success😍the kids had a blast.

the neighborhood kids said that it was the best party they have ever been to.

Whynot

I decided to call it a birthday lol

No one got decapitated hahaha!

Ans YES we made new friends. I'm so happy! I was so nervous that no one was going to come but they showed up and it was great!

Thank you Jo-Ho

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1st Birthday Celebration

by Whynot in

you guys!

our first birthday celebration was a total success😍the kids had a blast.

the neighborhood kids said that it was the best party they have ever been to.

Whynot

You guys! Our first birthday celebration was a total success😍The kids had a blast. The neighborhood kids said that it was the best party they have ever been to. It was sooo beautiful and bittersweet.

Seriously, this is something that shouldn't be taken away from anyone's childhood ♡♡♡

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Did Your Taste In Music Change After You Woke Up?

by pale.emperor in

after i awoken from the cult, i went through the normal process of not knowing who i was and what my tastes where.

looking back this was a wonderful time in my life because i experimented and tried different things and now i like or dislike things because i personally like/dislike them - not because i've been told they're good or bad.. black pudding is an example - it's made of blood and is a popular addition here in britain to fried breakfasts.

i tried it for the first time last year and i can confirm that it is indeed revolting.

Whynot

Not at all. I always got criticized for my music when some jdubs didn't like it lol. But I didn't care. I learned to be careful with who I shared my music with.

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Moving Back to Chicago - Don't care

by LevelThePlayingField in

my wife was diagnosed with ms about two years ago.

we have been living in ohio for the last 5 years but were recently assigned to a new congregation because of the dissolving and sale of our congregation/kh.

my wife's symptoms spiked after being relocated to our new hall back in january.

Whynot

Big hugs and sending lots of love and positive vibes.

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If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?

by blownaway in

i guess it would depend for me.

some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.

many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.

Whynot

No, I wouldn't

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Kids in my kingdom hall

by Akid48 in

i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.

when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..

Whynot

The reason I stopped going to the meetings was because my kids are sooo freakin loud and crazy. Special needs kids and I refused to spank them. Well, the elders decided to do a local needs about making your children sit quietly during the meetings. The elder who gave the talk doesn't even have children! He encouraged parents to take their children to the bathroom and discipline them to get them to sit quietly. No thank you!

I spoke to other Jehovah's Witnesses parents of special needs children and they talked about the lack of understanding within the organization when it comes to our kids. One JW said it's eaier to be Catholic in our situation. Everyone in the kingdom hall thinks we can just spank it out of them, really? A lot of these parents don't even go to any of the conventions it's too much of a burden.

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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?

by blownaway in

my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.

she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.

its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.

Whynot

I absolutely love my parents. But I can't blame them. It just doesn't make sense to blame them.

My mom came from an extremely poor family. Her father abandoned her and her 7 sisters for about 5 years. They had no idea where he was. Her mother never went to school so they all had to work. My mother started working as a child milking cattle, picking cotton, cleaning, taking care of kids. As a child she didnt celebrate religious holidays and the only thing she got for Christmas each year was a pair of shoes snd a meal. Men took advantage of them sexually. She was smart and learned English and immigrated to America at 16 and started working. She was able to take care of her family. She was sooo broken and still is. I feel sorry for her more than anything.

My father was raised by raging alcoholics with anger issues. He was abandoned several times and his teenage brother had to steal food to feed his 8 siblings. My father started working at 7 years if age or else he would starve to death. He hated holidays and birthdays because only the rich kids got gifts. He was suicidal most of his life and used to physically abuse my mom. The witnesses also provided hope for him.

More than anything I feel sorry for them. I can completely understand why they are still in the religion. I appreciate them for not shunning my DF husband and myself for being inactive. Honestly they have nothing else going for them. They love the attention and admiration they get since they have low self-esteem and are also narcicistic.

Sure, I wish things could have been different. But one thing I am pissed about is the fact that they gave up EVERYTHING to serve the organization. They sold their business, house and we lived off the government just so they can pioneer. THAT is what I'm pissed about. They were regular Jehovah's Witnesses but others started accusing them of being materialistic and should be pioneering etc. They fell for it and we all suffered. Our health suffered. It was horrible!

I am saddened by the fact that this was the only option for them to find happiness. They didn't have much opportunity for anything else unfortunately.

I am happy that my father encouraged me to study, do research and not believe everything I'm told at the meetings. This was the start of me having doubts, asking crazy questions. He loved it whenever I questioned anything in the publications. He never gave me an answer but he would encourage me to check it out at the library. So in way, I owe it to him for where I am.

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Since You Left The Organization Do You Celebrate National and Religious Holidays?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i know of people who were disciplined because they observed the fourth of july fireworks celebration.

and i know many people who celebrated thanksgiving but just didn’t call it that because they could get into trouble with the elders.. do you now celebrate birthdays and other holidays or is that something you really don’t care about?

?.

Whynot

We're celebrating a birthday this weekend. Never done this before. My husband doesn't feel comfortable though. Yet he's been DF for years and I'm a fader.

I don't see myself doing most holidays because I feel they're religious. My husband and I have talked about starting new family traditions in place of holidays.

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Gehenna

by Leolaia in

as john day discusses in his book on the god moloch, it is well known that in jewish literature and in the nt, gehenna is a term for the fiery portion of the underworld where the resurrected dead are destined to be punished (e.g.

4 ezra 7:36; 2 baruch 59:10, 85:13; mark 9:43, 45, 47), and gehenna itself derives from the aramaic name for the valley of hinnom, gehinnam, the valley to the southeast of jerusalem.

as an eschatological term, gehenna is constantly associated with fires that bring punishment to the wicked.

Whynot

Fascinating! I had no idea. I never evrn thought about doing research on this subject. Thank you!