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  "Jehovah's Organization"

  by Wild_Thing in

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  2. friends

  i was thinking about this phrase.

  when you get baptized, you belong to "jehovah's organization".

  when you go out in field service, you are.

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  Whynot

  This is just sooo appalling! How do they sleep at night?
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  Was CT Russell a freemason or not

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok. many people deny ct russell was a freemason.

  i have read articles whereby some have found no evidence to prove he was one at any point in his life.. however, given all the masonic symbols in the early publications including the use of the name jehovah ( the name the freemason's use to identify god), as well as the expressions used such as 'new world, new order' etc certainly raises suspicions.. then there is the article he wrote in the herald magazine outlining that he was a freemason (see the following video 40 seconds in).

  it really does make you think!.

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  Whynot

  Quiet a few have even called the Masonic Lodges and they couldn't find any records of Charles Taze Russell being one of them. I do know you can attend meetings without being a member and also be supportive by donating funds. At the least the Masons in my town run this way. They hold community fundraisers through a church.

  I think C.T. Russell was friends with several of them and supported them but was not an actual member
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  Is There Life After Death

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i think this is a well developed discussion, of ian stevenson's work in investigating people's past lives claims.

  it's a little long.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0attm9hgcdw.

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  Whynot

  I haven't watched the whole video. I'm planning on watching it later.

  I must confess, I love Ian Stevenson's work and Jim Tucker's. I read their books and some of it did creep me out but I'm just not used to the idea of life after death. It is very fascinating though.

  I do believe in life after death even though I don't have any tangible proof personally. It's something that must be approached with an open mind imo and I think the University is trying to work out a theory to better explained it and doing quite well. Dr. Edward Kelly's parasychology studies with EEG scans is something I just started reading about. It's very thought provoking. I know some people think it's hogwash but I do believe they have lots of observational case studies that can prove life after death.

  Brian Weiss is another Psychiatrist whose work I really enjoy reading about.
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  Governing Body trying to control marital relationships

  by Whynot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform.

  i say it's innapropriate because i think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to tell them they should love their children less.. he said: "mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?

  " i think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more.

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  Whynot

  GB really like to control every aspect of pur lives even how a couple loves each other in the bedroom. It's appalling!

  They have to know how much damage they're causing. I doubt they have no idea.

  I will love my husband however I want, my goodness!
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  JW Refutations of Criticism of Russell and Rutherford

  by Duvduv in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone direct me to jw refutations of the harsh criticisms of charles russell and judge rutherford that are on the internet and youtube?

  i am a fair person and insist on hearing both sides to a controversy.

  in this case, i would like to know what traditional yw responds to such personal criticisms and alleged changes in beliefs.

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  Whynot

  I think your questions are better answered in the book Crisis of Conscience. In summary, the GB want to protect the organization and it's reputation.

  When I was a strict JW I always felt embarrassed when anyone mentioned these shameful details but like I said, I always explained that they weren't perfect and the disciples weren't either.

  My stance is different now but that is what JWs willn say. Although some who are ignorant may deny or just not care.
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  Awesome, Awesome Report! Wait till you see the end of it!

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  beccah hendrickson of wgal comes thru again!

  a fabulous interview with barbara anderson, all the pieces of the puzzle are coming together!

  watch out watchtower!

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  Whynot

  Excellent report!
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  new JW Online Bible Study Lessons

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anybody seen the new online bible study yet, just posted yesterday i believe?

  it's the first thing you see now when going to the home page.

  the online bible study lessons on jw.org are free, have no obligation, and are easy to use.

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  Whynot

  I saw that today when a JW FB friend posted a link. I thought, hmmm... how is this helpful to the organization?
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  Governing Body trying to control marital relationships

  by Whynot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform.

  i say it's innapropriate because i think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to tell them they should love their children less.. he said: "mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?

  " i think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more.

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  @TD I have also been to marriage counseling. Yes, they do encourage us to make sure we're not neglecting our spouse (we have 3 kids, 2 with special needs). It just think it's horrible to suggest to "love your children less." This is insane.

  But I completely understand suggesting to spend time as a married couple. Making sure your spouse feels loved and appreciated which I think is extremely important. It also helps the children feel safe.
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  Governing Body trying to control marital relationships

  by Whynot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform.

  i say it's innapropriate because i think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to tell them they should love their children less.. he said: "mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?

  " i think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more.

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  Whynot

  4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform. I say it's innapropriate because I think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to telL them they shouLd love their children less.

  He said: "Mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?" I think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more. Well, when he got the answer he wasn't looking for he said "incorrect! You shouLd love your husband more because after your kids are gone you still have your husband. Your priority is to be a wife first."

  This didn't go over so well with the mothers in the congregation. Especially the divorced ones who escaped an abusive relationship. Even the husbands made comments about how wrong that was.

  Since then, I have noticed the Watchtower make subtle comments in the study articles about marriage and how a spouse's priority should be their duty as a spose and their children come later.

  This really, really bothered me. I understand wantIng to protect your marriage, but putting your children as less important? Ugh! How can anyone publish such non-sense. As a mother and a wife it really just comes natural to want to spend time with your husband without neglecting your kids. Why even try to make it a rule?! Why?!

  What about the women who are in abusIve relationships and they hear crap like this from the GB?
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  Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?

  by Whynot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.

  has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?

  we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.

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  Whynot

  I just read all the comments. I'm thinking of having a more laid back meet-up like the beach or happy hour maybe. I know a few people with experience handling support groups so I need to talk to them. I have much homework to do. Maybe even having some kind of fun activity at the park to start off and see how much interest there is.

  I appreciate everyone's input and suggestions.