I would say that they worship the organization and its governing body.
Whynot
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Jehovah is not the God of Jehovah’s Witnesses
by Ireneus inin exodus 23:4 jehovah established this law: “if you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to take it back to him.”.
if jws were really his people, jehovah would have ensured they never go wrong in their teaching which is in effect much more than mere “wandering.” if jehovah is concerned about wandering animals of enemies of his chosen people, much more concern should have been shown by him towards his modern-day chosen people.. yet the changes they have made are too many.
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1urjfnby6jlz8lsibve7vsrgihtxkwqbrluzihlgfh-e/edit).
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Serpent in the Garden of Eden is not Satan
by anointed1 inmany interpret serpent in the garden of eden as the satan hence miss the whole point because satan himself does not exist.
he is a fictional character [for example, in the temptation account, satan is shown as reflecting the erroneous belief of ancient time that shape of earth is flat, thus taking jesus to the top of “a very high mountain” and showed him “all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.” (mathew 4:8, 9) the fact that jesus did not correct the mistaken view of satan shows the account of temptation is allegorical.
further, jesus knew that satan was only a personification of evil (mathew 16:23; john 6:70) and categorically declared that “all evil thoughts proceed from one’s heart,” not from satan.
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Whynot
Things just make more sense when we look at the stories in a symbolic or poetic way. It also seems like sin had a different meaning for Judaism in ancient times. At least that's what I have read so far.
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Apostasy movie is now avalable on Amazon.
by blownaway ini just bought a copy.
14.99 in usa.
buy a copy and support this movie.
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Whynot
I just finished watching it!!! Wow! Wow! Wow!
Now, what are those guidance meetings they were talking about?
My husband says there wasn't enough apostasy in the movie lol
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Apostasy movie is now avalable on Amazon.
by blownaway ini just bought a copy.
14.99 in usa.
buy a copy and support this movie.
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Whynot
Finally!
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Only Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of this rant?.
“jehovah's witnesses are the only true religion.
this is demonstrated by a slew of true teachings that only jehovah could have revealed to his servants on earth.
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Whynot
1935 is a made up date. No where in the Bible does it even hint at this date even if you try to manipulate it. The "other sheep" Jesus was reffering to are gentiles. The context speaks for itself.
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Only Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of this rant?.
“jehovah's witnesses are the only true religion.
this is demonstrated by a slew of true teachings that only jehovah could have revealed to his servants on earth.
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Whynot
If Jesus did inspect Watchtower in 1919, what he found was not a cleansed organisation teaching truth, rather his inspection would have revealed a group promoting that:
- The "Last Days" started in 1799 and the 1800s were the worst time period of all history
- Jesus presence commenced in 1874
- Jesus had begun ruling in 1878
- Armageddon had occurred in 1914
- Blood was acceptable as food for Christians
- Jesus should be prayed to and worshipped, as well as Jehovah
- The Great Crowd were a heavenly class
- Birthdays and Christmas were acceptable celebrations
- The cross was on the cover of the Watchtower
- Teachings adapted from 1800's religious preachers and the Adventist movement, such as that pyramids and astrology supported 1914
- Strong Zionist support for a new nation of Israel in fulfilment of Bible prophecy
- The Faithful and Discreet Slave was not the anointed, but rather Pastor Russell
By current standards, in 1919 Watchtower was very much an apostate organization
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How can you tell someone they have bad breath without offending?
by James Mixon ini told someone and they became very angry with me.
we have been friends for many years but lately his breath is eye burning.
he is single so he doesn't have a wife to tell him, dear you need a mint.
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Whynot
Some native Americans chewed on minty bark. Egyptians had toothbrushes made from twigs I think.
As far as your friend goes, maybe suggest a probiotic or that he see a dentist. He may have a certain dental condition like a cavity or a rotting tooth. He also may have digestive issues. You can say "hey I love hanging out with you but are you ok? When was the last time you went to the dentist? This probiotic may help with any heartburn or digestive issues you may have. Bad breath is usually a sign of bad health and I want to make sure you're ok"
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Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate
by Whynot indid anyone else watch the bill nye versus ken ham debate?
it happened february 4, 2014 and just watched it a few months ago.
i thought it was interesting but must confess that i felt extremely embarrassed for ken ham.
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Whynot
Bill definitely could have done better. I'm not a fan of everything he does. I don't understand why he doesn't go ahead and get his degree and become an actual scientist.
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Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate
by Whynot indid anyone else watch the bill nye versus ken ham debate?
it happened february 4, 2014 and just watched it a few months ago.
i thought it was interesting but must confess that i felt extremely embarrassed for ken ham.
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Whynot
Did anyone else watch the Bill Nye versus Ken Ham debate? It happened February 4, 2014 and just watched it a few months ago.
I thought it was interesting but must confess that I felt extremely embarrassed for Ken Ham. His arguments were pretty weak but Bill Nye really did present his arguments very well. Ken Ham stubbornly stuck to the young earth argument. Even Bill Nye told him that a lot creationists he knows don't take the Genesis account so literal.
I still believe in creation but I must say that Bill Nye sparked a curiosity in me to look into evolution further. So far I find it very intriguing. So I want to keep an open mind.
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The Big Sick movie. Interesting clips about family rejection based on religious and cultural differences!
by stuckinarut2 inif anyone has not yet watched the fantastic 2017 movie "the big sick", i would highly recommend it!.
without giving too much away, there are two scenes in it that we as ex jws will relate to.. the first scene shows the main character being chastised and rejected by his parents for not following their religious and cultural expectations and marrying a muslim girl.
the parents effectively "disfellowship" him from their family!
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Whynot
That movie is awesome! I was thinking the same thing with the shunning. My husband and I laughed at those scenes but we also kind of looked at each other. I'm not DF but he is. Thankfully, his family doesn't shun him. My family partly shuns him.