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  new JW Online Bible Study Lessons

  by neat blue dog in

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  has anybody seen the new online bible study yet, just posted yesterday i believe?

  it's the first thing you see now when going to the home page.

  the online bible study lessons on jw.org are free, have no obligation, and are easy to use.

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  Whynot

  I saw that today when a JW FB friend posted a link. I thought, hmmm... how is this helpful to the organization?
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  Governing Body trying to control marital relationships

  by Whynot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform.

  i say it's innapropriate because i think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to tell them they should love their children less.. he said: "mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?

  " i think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more.

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  @TD I have also been to marriage counseling. Yes, they do encourage us to make sure we're not neglecting our spouse (we have 3 kids, 2 with special needs). It just think it's horrible to suggest to "love your children less." This is insane.

  But I completely understand suggesting to spend time as a married couple. Making sure your spouse feels loved and appreciated which I think is extremely important. It also helps the children feel safe.
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  Governing Body trying to control marital relationships

  by Whynot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform.

  i say it's innapropriate because i think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to tell them they should love their children less.. he said: "mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?

  " i think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more.

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  Whynot

  4 years ago during the circuit overseers visit he asked a rather innapropriate question from the platform. I say it's innapropriate because I think it's wrong to tell happy married couples how to love each other and much more wrong it is to telL them they shouLd love their children less.

  He said: "Mothers, who should you love more your children or your husband?" I think most mothers will quickly say you should love your children more. Well, when he got the answer he wasn't looking for he said "incorrect! You shouLd love your husband more because after your kids are gone you still have your husband. Your priority is to be a wife first."

  This didn't go over so well with the mothers in the congregation. Especially the divorced ones who escaped an abusive relationship. Even the husbands made comments about how wrong that was.

  Since then, I have noticed the Watchtower make subtle comments in the study articles about marriage and how a spouse's priority should be their duty as a spose and their children come later.

  This really, really bothered me. I understand wantIng to protect your marriage, but putting your children as less important? Ugh! How can anyone publish such non-sense. As a mother and a wife it really just comes natural to want to spend time with your husband without neglecting your kids. Why even try to make it a rule?! Why?!

  What about the women who are in abusIve relationships and they hear crap like this from the GB?
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  Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?

  by Whynot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.

  has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?

  we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.

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  I just read all the comments. I'm thinking of having a more laid back meet-up like the beach or happy hour maybe. I know a few people with experience handling support groups so I need to talk to them. I have much homework to do. Maybe even having some kind of fun activity at the park to start off and see how much interest there is.

  I appreciate everyone's input and suggestions.
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  Introduction of Chapter 1 in New Boy and inside look at the world headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  chapter 1. the pledge.

  just a few blocks from the world famous brooklyn bridge there is a huge four building complex.

  this prime piece of brooklyn real estate built in 1926 is located at 117 adams street.

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  Whynot

  Nice! Very intriguing
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  JW Refutations of Criticism of Russell and Rutherford

  by Duvduv in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone direct me to jw refutations of the harsh criticisms of charles russell and judge rutherford that are on the internet and youtube?

  i am a fair person and insist on hearing both sides to a controversy.

  in this case, i would like to know what traditional yw responds to such personal criticisms and alleged changes in beliefs.

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  Whynot

  Faith On The March and the Proclaimers book https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101993012

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101993016

  When I encountered criticism while preaching my response was always: The bible says that God's light will gradually get brighter and brighter. This means that there are beliefs that the Jehovah's Witnesses have abandoned and we make changes as necessary. We don't mind adapting whenever we see new truths. I also used Acts chapter 1 to show that even the disciples had incorrect ideas about God's kingdom.

  When facing criticism of 1914 I used to explain : Yes, we know that secular chronology does not coincide with ours but we feel that ours better fits with biblical chronology. Besides, secular chronology is not always accurate. (In reality the evidence against 1914 is very, very solid. We choose to stick to our teaching about it even though it's flawed).

  Another explanation I used to give: they were not perfect men. They made mistakes just like anyone else. And again I would show Acts chapter 1 to show that even the disciples had flawed ideas about the kingdom of God.

  So yeah, I was a very faithful Jehovah's Witness and eagerly defended the beliefs. There were plenty of things that led me to leave.
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  Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?

  by Whynot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.

  has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?

  we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.

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  Whynot

  My husband and I have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications. Has anyone started a support group for ex-jws? We even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet. We would do this probably in a year from now or more.

  We keep hearing of DFd people getting hospitalized for anxiety, depression and attempted suicide. We know these people and want to reach out somehow.

  Any suggestions?
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  Jesus tempted by Satan, real or just a vision.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not with their shunning policy.

  me and my brother seldom communicate sadly, but no way would we go anywhere for fear of being seen with an inactive jw for over 10 years.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-simplified-march-2016/questions-from-readers/.

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  Whynot

  I have to agree. I must say that those accounts you mention are horrid and have no moral teachings. It just doesn't add up. How can a loving god treat his children in such a way?

  The book of Job is also pretty apalling no matter how you look at it. The Jewish explanation I mentioned is a way, I think, they justify what happened to him to make it more bareable to read. I did find another popular Jewish view here https://jewinthecity.com/2017/10/what-is-the-jewish-view-of-the-devil/

  But this one also doesn't make me feel much better lol

  Now, I still have trouble with believing that Satan is an actual person. How can Jehovah easily kill one of his own people for trying to protect the ark from falling off, or a person who needs firewood? But yet has allowed the most evil being remain in existence? That is just crazy to me!

  So many things to question in the bible, you know?

  Now, when I read about Jesus' temptation it makes me think that he was dealing with his own temptations. He could have taken over the world if he wanted to or charge for his services.

  I would like to hear what other people have to say about this narrative since I DO think it is an interesting discussion.
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  Jesus tempted by Satan, real or just a vision.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not with their shunning policy.

  me and my brother seldom communicate sadly, but no way would we go anywhere for fear of being seen with an inactive jw for over 10 years.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-simplified-march-2016/questions-from-readers/.

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  @EverApostate

  I wouldn't say that. The thing is that we truly miss the richness of the biblical moral teachings when we have a limited view of the Bible. Looking into the Jewish traditional views of the bible can be rewarding. It's extremely easy to dismiss the bible when taken literally.

  Most Christians get offended when venturing into the symbolism in the bible because it attacks their faith. I really didn't mean to offend. I apologize if I did. I was just trying to offer a more traditional explanation of Satan and of the book of Job.

  I think it's pretty cool to look at the bible the way it was viewed before modern times. At least that has been my experience.
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  Jesus tempted by Satan, real or just a vision.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not with their shunning policy.

  me and my brother seldom communicate sadly, but no way would we go anywhere for fear of being seen with an inactive jw for over 10 years.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-simplified-march-2016/questions-from-readers/.

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  @EverApostate

  In traditional rabbinic sources, the narrative between "satan" and God is a parable. Satan is a metaphor for the yetzer hara and not an actual person.

  Christians have formed Satan into a being with an identity.

  A lot of Jews are taught that Satan is the product of pagan mythology.