If the prophets had visions directly projected inside their mind Jehovah would not even need people with sight or skies to see. In short, Jehovah needs no studio.
What do you think about that, Jim?
"FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAUDDDDDD!"
excuse me, but why does god need a movie studio?.
after all in the new system couldn't he just project visuals across the sky?
( star trek final frontier reference).
If the prophets had visions directly projected inside their mind Jehovah would not even need people with sight or skies to see. In short, Jehovah needs no studio.
What do you think about that, Jim?
"FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAUDDDDDD!"
i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
Agnostic - a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Atheist - a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
Agnostics claim to neither believe or disbelieve and claim it is impossible to know if a god exists. Atheists claim there is insufficient evidence to believe in a god. This implies if there were sufficient evidence an Atheist would become a Theist while an Agnostic would not.
i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
I think it is important to have understanding of the meaning of words, terms, and phrases.
An Atheist is a person who does not believe there is sufficient evidence that there is a personal god or creator. They are not opposed to the idea that there may be some entity that would fit the general description of a god. There are many Atheists who sit in church every Sunday, or their temple on Saturday, or whatever place of worship on whatever day.
An Antitheist is a person who claims they KNOW there is no personal god or creator and oppose religion as a whole.
I stopped being a Jehovah's Witness and became an Antitheist. Then I became an Atheist.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/multiple-nations-issue-joint-statement-calling-for-an-end-to-the-persecution-of-jehovahs-witnesses/.
Wow!
The U.S. State Department issues a statement calling for the worldwide end of persecuting of Jehovah's Witnesses. The Watchtower grabs a hold of this statement and publishes is on their website applauding the U.S. government and supporting the statement.
Jesus: "Keep in mind the word I said to you: A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours." - John 15:20 NWT
Watchtower: "We appreciate fair-minded governments who speak out in defense of our right to worship."
a balanced view of jesus’ role.
like those in christendom, the early bible students mistakenly allowed their love for jesus to overshadow their relationship with jehovah.
beginning in 1919, however, they came to see that jehovah and their relationship with him should be the focus of their worship.
Makes the name Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witness ring hollow.
Householder: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Christians?
Jehovah's Witnesses: Oh, yes!
Householder: Do you love Jesus?
Jehovah's Witnesses: Well, not too much. We focus our love on Jehovah.
has the gb been hijacked by tony morris?
hes the host many times on jw videos.
saying gb members wanting him too host.
Remember that intelligence does not equal knowledge. It is the ability to learn and figure things out.
Tony Morris reminds me a lot of a Presiding Overseer I had for years. He's 90% organizational and 10% religious on on good day. I see him as the Rutherford of our day.
imho, its the one rodney spinks and terry o`brien parroting the governing body direction is that when somebody leaves the religion whether they just fade ,disassociate or even get disfellowshiped ,then they are in fact shunning all members of all congregations worldwide including family and friends ,.according to their testimony at the arc.. this is a blatant lie and misrepresents the truth,.and they know it.. when a person leaves the religion for whatever reason they are rejecting the governing body`s teachings ,doctrines and practices of the religion of jehovah`s witnesses and not all peoples associated within the congregations.. especially not family and friends who they may have long standing relationships with.. they try to shift the blame and put the onus on those who leave.. shame on them for perpetuating such a lie..
Imagine being an expert witness for the government in the ARC.
Attorney: You at one time were one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Witness: Correct.
Attorney: You chose to stop being one of Jehovah's Witnesses? I believe the term is you "faded"?
Witness: Yes. That is correct on both of your questions.
Attorney: So then, what happens to you if you try to maintain your relationship with active Jehovah's Witnesses? I mean to ask, what consequences are there for you as a former Jehovah's Witnesses for trying to maintain a relationship with current Jehovah's Witness?
Witness: None. Nothing will happen. There are no consequences.
Attorney: What would happen if the Jehovah's Witness you are maintaining a relationship with? That is to ask, what consequences would that Jehovah's Witness face?
Witness: That Jehovah's Witness would be disfellowshipped and shunned by all other Jehovah's Witnesses including all family members that do not live in the same home as that Witness. Anyone that is a Jehovah's Witness would be told they will face the same outcome if the continue any relations with that person.
Attorney: Let's be clear - You're telling the court that as a former Jehovah's Witness you are free to associate with active Jehovah's Witnesses and face no consequences, but the reverse is not true? You may or may not shun Jehovah's Witnesses, but they must shun you under penalty of being shunned?
Witness: That is truth.
Attorney: No further questions your Honor. I pass the witness.
i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
DoubtingThomas:
I was raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I was present when there was a change in the Watchtower's approach to making converts. The book I was studied with prior to Baptism was the Live Forever book. That book took time to not only teach what the Watchtower claims is truth based on its interpretation of the Bible, but it and many other publications of the day took time to attempt to disprove all other religions both Christian and non-Christian.
As a result, many who saw the Watchtower for what it is came to this conclusion - If all other religion is false and so is the Watchtower there must be no god. No true religion. That is what happened to me. What happened next was my life became a nihilistic train wreck.
What I eventually found out through study was that what the Watchtower prints about other religions has not always been true. There have been many half-truths or flat out misrepresentations of the truth. These are called "lies."
I know a lot of people on this website and other places debate the existence of the god of the Bible or whether Jesus really existed and was resurrected. For me, these things are not important. How the universe came to be, what happens when we die, these types of questions do not matter. How to live while we have this precious gift of life is the most important question.
Imagine if people actually lived by Jesus' teachings rather than argued to be right about something that does not matter.
given that us healthcare isn't free at point of contact and people have to pay for insurance, which can be expensive and is often linked to employment how do jws get on ?
if they are encouraged to take low paid or part time jobs so l assume don't get good healthcare insurance from their jobs .
how do they cope with medical bills?
Growing up as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I only had health insurance once I became an adult and got a job with benefits. Witnesses are obsessed with home remedies and "snake oil". As a kid my parents rarely took me to the doctor. My parents only started going to doctors once they got old enough to qualify for MediCare/MedicAid.
I remember my mother suffered a small heart attack. Rather than dial 911 or rush my mother to the hospital, my father called a sister in the congregation who was a retired nurse. She told my father to hang up the phone and rush my mother to the hospital. Once the medical bills started rolling in my father just placed them in the trash.
absolute worst case scenario, the last of the generation that saw the events of 1914 would have died off would be in the mid to late 1990's!
so we were told in the 1980's!
so now we 3/4 of another generation past that!.
As a born in Jehovah's Witness that was raised in the 1980s and early 1990s I was told Armageddon would come before -
I became an adult nearly 30 years ago.
I graduated high school nearly 30 years ago.
1999 is the last year of the 20th Century. January 1, 2000 was the first year of the 21st Century. We have been living in the 21st Century for over 20 years.
Now all my children have or will graduate high school in the next 3 years. All my children will be adults before then. That will place as 1/4 the way through the 21st Century.
Here's the nail in the coffin for me -
My whole life I have been told by Jehovah's Witnesses that we are living in the "Last Days". The Watchtower claims we live in the "Last Days" and has for over 100 years (we are closer to 200 years than 100 years). In 2020 Stephen Lett tells us that we are in the "final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days! Shortly before the last day of the last days." Now Anthony Morris III tells us that Lett's statement is false and it is not as close as thought.
It doesn't take faith to keep being a Witness. It takes belief. Belief is the ability to ignore facts and evidence that disprove an idea one holds dearly.