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Calling Out Jehovah's Witness Leaders for a violation of NEUTRALITY

by TerryWalstrom in

_______________by the time 1967 arrived, my religious leaders in the kingdom hall had taken me aside and given me the straight dope.the vietnam war and the draft created existential problems for young jehovah's witness males.

the governing body was unusually silent (in public) about issues of this nature except to pontificate in print in the most general terms.

jw's didn't fight in wars because we were neutral.

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I remember how much of a deep impact his made on me. Not because I was personally effected. Rather, I watched how it effected those brothers who personally went through this.

I remember working in the Accounts Department at the Circuit Assembly in which this change was mentioned. An elder who was not a Witnesses during the Vietnam War, but was a conscientious objector had accepted working at the Post Office in lieu of military service. He made a profound comment, but it was his physical demeanor that had a more profound effect on me. He said something along the lines of "This will be difficult."

This elder was so troubled he looked like he was about to have a stroke. Until this very day that experience has stuck with me. I cannot say for sure, but this change may have been what eventually lead to me leaving the organization.

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Concept faithful discreet slave

by inbetween09 in

according to the "new light" the faithful slave class appeared after jesus came 1914 (rather 1918 he inspected the temple) and was bestowed with assigement to provide spiritual food.. there are a number of problems with this new concept:.

how did russel and co found out about certain unique teachings diffferent from mainstream christendom?.

option 1) apparently by himself, as there was no fds at his time.

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This change in doctrine (aka "New Light") is probably the single most important fact that could open the eyes of Witnesses right next to the "overlapping generations".

Traditionally, New Light has been minor adjustments in doctrine. Even the Overlapping Generation still has the final point that "this generation will by no means pass away." They just kicked the can down the road...again.

Once I learned about this new change I became downright baffled why any Witness who has been in the organization for over 30 years didn't just pick up and leave. The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society was founded by Charles Taze Russell. The Governing Body literally just tore out about 25% of the Proclaimers book, burned it, and denied it ever existed.

Then to add insult to injury, they say the Faithful and Discreet Slave Class has been reduced to 7 men in New York. 7 people does not constitute a class of people. It was a giant middle finger given to all those who claim to be of the annointed.

My dad has claimed to be of the annointed since he joined the religion way back in the 1960s. I am shocked that he is still in.

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My live as video gamer and JW

by ironsnake656 in

one of my strangest things that happened to me during my life as jw was that i loved (and still i do) video games.

i started playing super mario bros in a nintendo entertainment system (nes) from my cousin and from there i developed an attachment to the video games.

i remember that i asked for a gift the nes to my dad and my wish come true!

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Great memories! The NES classics are the best. My dad pitched a fit and made me return Golgo 13 for the NES. Just another reason I hated growing up a JW.

My passion was role-playing games. I never got into Dungeons & Dragons because there was no hiding that. I played rpgs based on sci-fi and Lord of the Rings. My player group was all JW young adults who just moved out on their own. I spent my high school years hanging out with them.

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This is why the Elders should always call the WT society or personal attorney before ever talking to the Police.

by StoneWall in

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this is probably going to unnerve some on here or make them uncomfortable.we always hear, why didn't the elders call the cops first instead of the wt society (lawyers/attorneys).

in cases of child molestation or other incidents.this video is why and if you're smart you'll follow their example.i'm not taking the wtbts side on this just so you know in advance because i do not agree with the two witness rule at all.but be that as it may,this is by far the best lawyer/attorney and law professor i've ever heard on the subject of why you should never talk to the police and always let an investigation be made through counsel.this is why in the usa you have the right to remain silent when talking to police/authorities but even more important what the fifth amendment really entails and why it would behoove us all to understand what can happen even if you are totally innocent and have nothing to hide but how things can go horribly wrong.if i ever have to go to court for anything i can only hope that i got a lawyer as competent as this one the vid is approx 46 minutes long but well worth investing that time because if you had to talk to a lawyer it would cost you a lot to receive what this professor covers in this.the majority is from the law professor and the remaining minutes are of a former police captain/investigator with his insights and opinions.and just to be clear, i'm not suggesting that the elders not call the police because they should in cases of child molestation but rather they better get legal advice to protect themselves so that they don't have to answer for the wtbts decisions.look how many former (ex) elders we have on sites like this one and others and i'm so happy they got free of the wt but also they didn't get in trouble by accidentally saying/doing the wrong thing.all of us can benefit by following this advice in the video and i hope you enjoy it and to know what your rights arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xyp7ee.

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I watched a little over 15 minutes of this video before I stopped.

I have worked in the criminal justice system here in the United States for a little over 17 years with the last 8 directly in the criminal courts system. Based on my training, education, and experience here is my take on this video -

The title seems disingenuous, but I give the speaker the benefit of the doubt for this important reason; he has only been a criminal defense attorney. There are a few criminal defense attorneys that have "drunk the kool-aid." They really believe that the police are out to lock everyone up and everyone is truly innocent. The speaker seems resemble that description. As a side note, if you are ever in need of a criminal defense attorney, I would look for one that has previous experience as a state's prosecutor.

A better, more accurate title to this would be "Never Talk to the Police if you are a Suspect". I would agree with that statement. I also agree with the statement made that it has never helped a suspect's case, if he is charged, to give a statement. Yes, that statement will always be used against you. Even if it your statement is "I do not wish to make a statement."

Lastly, this video has nothing to do with report crimes. In many states here in the U.S., it is actually a crime to fail to report a felony, which any sex crime involving children is. In my state you can be sentenced up to 1 year in the county jail for failing to report a felony.

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Pale Emperor Seems To Have Developed A Fetish

by pale.emperor in

dont worry, this is safe for work... :).

remember when we were jws and we were told not to "model ourselves after the world"?

meaning no tattoos, no non-approved hairstyles, clothing to be not too tight, not too short etc etc etc?

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I'm with OneEyedJoe -

Educated women in power careers is what I'm attracted to. The more intellectual the better. The more independent the better.

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DId you ever fall asleep at the meetings, Assemblys??

by karter in

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if i'm tierd i fall asleep anywere so the meetings ect were no diffrent my wife would always try to wake me but im a deep sleeper.

karter .

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When I was 19 I was appointed as a MS. That year's convention I had all sort of responsibilities. I got very little sleep. Sunday, during the last morning talk, I passed smooth out in my seat. I woke up in the middle of the song that concluded the morning session just before the afternoon intermission.

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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."

by HereIgo in

i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.

does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?

or is that just my wishful thinking?

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Conversely, I remember in the early 90's when I was finishing high school my parents said "If there was another organization that had the Truth we would join it. This one does not have the love of the Christ." Of course, they remain faithful even until this day. In spite of the way our family was treated, all the doctrinal changes, and how long this "wicked, old system" drags on.

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What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

by Iamallcool in

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i want something different on my next pizza!.

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Green olives is a must. Try with bacon or meatball.

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2017 San Diego Comic Con!

by HiddlesWife in

fyi (regarding those posters/readers who are interested): 2017 san diego comic con started last thursday, 7/20/17 and is ending today, sunday, 7/23/17.

here are the footage/highlights of it (i'm planning one of these days to attend it ):.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvu6dd59iya&t=93s.

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My buddy, another former Witness, is there right now. He's been sending me photos.

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What happened in 1995?

by pale.emperor in

i was born in 1984 so was only 9yo in 1995. i read on various posts on here and on other websites about false expectations about 1975 and 1995. i'm aware of the 1975 failure but what was said in 1995?.

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I remember it very well. There was even newspaper articles in which Witnesses who quit over it were quoted. Yes - as a born in who grew up in the 80's and graduated high school in the 90's we were taught to believe that this "system of things" would pass away in the time span of a generation (70 or 80 years) from 1914. The new "overlapping generations" teaching is a direct result of the fact that Armageddon had not come by 1994.

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