(original version posted 2014).
notice: the following is submitted in full recognition of and with compassion and due respect for those who, due to personal circumstance, feel they are unable to employ this powerful strategy.. ---.
anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious true-believer from a celebrated multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
Well said, AMNESIANO! The mandatory memorial attendence is a scam to guilt many inactive and uninterested attendees and unbelieving spouses into making changes to serve the org. Offering Bible studies to those that show up is like shooting fish in a barrel. Get in and get out. Try not to make eye contact with the hardcore JW lackeys and yes men.
Captive 1990-2015
Last WT propaganda memorial attendence 2015
just wonderin'.
Darkspliver is really close. I am in construction in the USA in the Midwest. Generally, you are looking at $300-$500 a square foot depending on the size, height, type of structure, specialty systems, and grade of interior finishes. A simple office building complex with residential suites would be about $400 a square foot. However, the $400 a square foot includes union labor. As we know, the real estate company, WTBT$, was built on free labor. Since many of the labor manhours are donated, the org gets a break. It can be said that about 50% of the cost, is labor. There still is cost involved with free labor such as housing, food, and other expenses. I would probably figure a 35-40% discount due to the free labor because I believe that they do subcontract some specialized work. Also, my personal experience on quick builds (do you remember those?) demonstrated a lack of serious rates of production as well as work that had to be done over again with additional material costs. I estimate about $450,000,000.
in my case; 27 years.
7 of which were as a ministerial serpent ... sorry, i mean 'servant' ;).
26 years...just a lowly publisher excelling in mediocrity
this is the email i have just sent to mr. stewart angus, who has been conducting the questioning of the jw leaders during the australian royal commission dealing with child abuse cases among the jehovah's witnesses, concerning the claims made that a jehovah witness who wishes to walk away from the organization can simply become inactive and avoid being shunned:.
dear mr. angus stewart,
i have followed with interest the videos of the arc regarding the jehovah's witnesses in australia.
when i was in , i went on many vacations, ate out at restaurants a lot and drank alcohol.
loved music and dancing too.... do jws do anything but watch watchtower videos now?
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Week night bowling "get together's" during off peak hours where it's $1.50 a game....have to stretch that money on a minimum wage job. Also, scavenger hunts where they only drive to witness homes asking for odd items. The first team to return to the KH with all the items wins! Sounds alittle dangerous if you are driving fast and agressive to get all the items. Also, it wastes fuel...thus the buck fifty bowling games.
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you do remember the four day assemblies... sitting outdoors being fried in the sweltering heat,getting heat stroke in the middle of july in an outdoor baseball stadium.sitting outdoors from 9:45 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. was so much fun while you wore a suit,long sleeve shirt and a tie while your brain fried.
mom's who had children to take care of,lug strollers,feed all the kids,take them for bathroom breaks and try to not faint from the heat.. the sound and audio was always breaking and barely audible from the wind,airplanes flying over and (if you attended the cicero,illinois circuit )you would smell horse manure from the horse stables next door.. you know that you are a jehovah's witness.... when the only excitement waiting for the drama... where brothers and sisters dress up in ancient cloths,fake beards,fake rocks and fake soldier uniforms and wave their hands incessantly to pretend that they are acting out a drama.the excitement was unbearable!.
I remember the assemblies at the Cicero race tracks. They were at Hawthorne and a couple across the way at Sportsmen's race track. Everybody had a mad dash to get seats in the air conditioned "Gold Cup room." Attendants, Elders and MS would get in early and save seats for their entourage before the doors were opened. "Looking out for the interest of others before themselves." Right. It was interesting to watch the horses work out before the assembly. The smell of manure and the hot sun beating down on you was expected if you were resigned to sitting in the outdoor sections. Later, it was moved to Comiskey (US Cellular Field) where everyone was outside. We endured the heat with the plethora of umbrellas clamped to arm rests and downpours of rain that ran down the steps and soaked everything that was stowed under your seats. Miserable. It rained almost all day. One assembly day, we were so soaked that we went to the car in the parking lot to dry off and listen to the assembly on the radio. With the heat on, we all fell asleep in no time and left at lunch time....and we felt so guilty. After the ballpark, we had to truck it out to Rockford at what is now known as the BMO Harris Center. After several years, it was moved to NIU Convocation Center. Now, I am told that it is at the Sears Center in Hoffman Estates. Never been there since it was after I faded. We would have driven anywhere that they told us to go. Definitely, the dramas were our lifeline for breaking up the monotony. It was the only time that almost everyone was in their seat or even paying attention.
background:.
my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.
i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.
I would be thrilled to read your manifesto. Hope you post it. It would encourage many more lurking on this forum.
Thanks for your post.
just needing a listening ear, so in advance thanks for being here, no one other than ex-jw's could understand.
they may try, but i think only a person who lived through it could know what's its really like.. i wish i could be supporting others here but i'm so broken myself i can't seem to do that yet.
i hope that will come in time though.. for now, i'm trying to undo the damage done to my family by the wts.
Don't beat yourself up. Everyone that first arrived at this forum was broken. Some were broken more than others, but everyone was damaged goods by this cult. The healed long-timers are hear to help the newly arrived patrons here. We all have a journey to healing and put our past behind us. Everyone moves at a different pace. Keep your head and chin up. Persevere. I look forward to the day that you are fully healed to help out the next generation that finds this forum. Take care longgone
february 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: memorial and special talk.
"inactive ones"= submariners. They only surface once a year for the memorial talk...like a submarine. Maybe twice a year if they attend the "special" talk too.
http://www.orlando-times.com/the_journey_of_jalessa_526.html.
the orlando times.
home.
Maybe she will be asked to help on JW.org and the monthly televangelist JW propaganda channel? Nope, sorry i forgot.......she has a vagina and not a penis. No can do, Jalessa. We have a recent need for laundry and housekeeping help though. I hate the JW misogyny.
