Posts by Londo111

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Do You Think a Schism is in the Future?

by lepermessiah in

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i was thinking about this over the weekend.

just this week, there was the "consolidation" talk (in my wife's congregation) , the article about shunning that went viral, and the annual "show your love and obedience to jehovah by giving us your money" watchtower.

i know my wife said people are running scared about this consolidation even though it was sold as maximizing space to help other areas, build kh in other countries, etc...... the media and government has hit them hard in many countries, but they have gotten off easy in the usa, where the majority of the people and money reside.

Londo111

Watchtower is adapt at stopping schisms before they start. Any groups have have broken away have been very small...the largest no bigger than a circuit. The cult mechanism is in place to quarantine any dissenting individuals and demonizing them to the max.

A schism would need to consolidate around a leader or leaders from the top. Of course, in seeing what happened to Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap, Watchtower will go into witchhunt mode and kick out any dissenting leader in the street. I believe had Ray Franz chose to do so, he could've started a competitive schism. But he was a man of integrity and did not want the mantle of leadership and the harm that can bring those under that mantle.

Even if there was an even split in the Governing Body to the breaking point, I wonder how Watchtower would handle it. Eventually one faction would win out and shut and excise the other down.

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2018 Regional (District) Convention Outlines

by AverageJoe1 in

so the official program is out but does anyone have access to the actual outlines for the assembly this year in english and/or spanish?.

maybe the gb are clamping down on their "high-up" leaks within the organisation and the circuit overseers making these available have been kicked or had to no longer leak material for fear of getting themselves discovered by the wt gestapo..

Londo111

Can't wait for the English translations...

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Circuit Overseer Meets with Elders and Ministerial Servants

by accesible in

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¿necesitan los demás bosquejos?.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvhuodkcahf6efu2xqxfk6o8ambqe5rm.

Londo111

I don't believe they have outlined the criteria "Biblically drunk" anywhere have they?

I don't remember seeing this in the leaked copies of the Flock book.

On the other hand, they've a fine gradient when it comes to porn and what kinds are disfellowshippable and what kinds are not. It shows where the priorities are.

One elder told me that drunkendess was "hard to prove". And I was like, "What?"

It's one of those things that many elders, "Bethel heavies", Governing Body members, and at least one Watchtower President have been guilty of. And yet...some have been disfellowshipped for it. Hayden Covington comes to mind. But the majority seem to avoid any sort of punishment.

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Growing a beard

by Coded Logic in

i've always been currious as to how i would look with a beard so i've finally committed to doing it.

over the next 30 days i'm going to grow out a full chin to ear beard.. .

ps: any suggestions or advice on how to grow a beard would be much appreciated!.

Londo111

You are no longer qualified to carry microphones!

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Sexist article about construction

by neat blue dog in

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/women-in-construction/.

it's all about women being trained to operate heavy equipment, like it's a miracle.

they quote the male foreman, but don't tell you that only men are allowed to be foreman.

Londo111

The Watchtower's standards on "spiritual" qualifications are so high, that it does create a shortage of "qualified" men to have privileges. For instance, it is more likely for a JW man to give into looking at a little online nudity, and thus fail to even carry a microphone, much less qualify for anything weighter.

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Sexist article about construction

by neat blue dog in

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/women-in-construction/.

it's all about women being trained to operate heavy equipment, like it's a miracle.

they quote the male foreman, but don't tell you that only men are allowed to be foreman.

Londo111

"In Britain, less than 13 percent of construction workers are women."

But at least those 13% got paid.

The JW women involved in "theocratic" construction did not. This basically amounted to slave labor.

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new Young People Ask article aimed at non-JW youths

by neat blue dog in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/teenagers/ask/meetings-at-kingdom-hall/.

Londo111

If they don't become a JW, their new friends will quickly abandon them.

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Value of bound vol.

by blownaway in

what is the value of a bound vol.?

i see them on ebay for 5 bucks plus shipping.

i want some of the 75 date publications like the 68 watchtower.

Londo111

What are the ramblings of David Koresh or Jim Jones worth?

I'd say they should have the same going rate.

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Am I losing my mind or am I being stalked?

by Michigan22 in

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friends

hi everyone, this is my first post.

i studied the bible weekly with a wonderful jw.

i suddenly stopped because things just seemed to be getting stranger.

Londo111

Congrats on waking up in time and seeing the warning signs.

Let's review: it's a cult!

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Crisis of Conscience (Fifth Edition) is now available on Kindle:

by Brock Talon in

i am not on this site much lately, so i apologize up front if someone has already posted this, but i thought this was big news and wanted to share with the group.. crisis of conscience (fifth edition) is now available on kindle.

https://www.amazon.com/crisis-conscience-struggle-between-religion-ebook/dp/b07b7c21m3/ref=zg_bs_158371011_1?_encoding=utf8&psc=1&refrid=d50fq853aggrcmag7vzs.

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Londo111

Agreed. I do wonder if Ray Franz would have approved of putting himself on the cover.