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  Did you enjoy your visit to Bethel?

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently had to take a trip with my family to bethel.

  it was a bit torturous for a secret apostate as you can imagine.

  but mostly just so boring.

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  Londo111

  I went in 1990, but it was my first time in NYC and still in my teens, so it was all an adventure.

  I went again 10 years later, Brooklyn HQ, the Farm, Patterson...and it was not the "spiritual boost" I had hoped. It was sort of a let down.
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  Rick Fearon - Six Screens of the Watchtower

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so a friend today asked me what his deal is and i honestly don't know.

  i saw someone post about his accusations that the doj is investigating watchtower and people seemed down on the guy, as well has johnny the bethelite or whatever his name is that claims to leak stuff.

  i don't know rick fearon, don't watch his show, but his site just seems a little crazy, and he seems to get into occult conspiracies and the jws, which never lends credibility.. so for those of you who have been around a while, what's the deal?

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  I remember accidentally encountering him on Youtube as JW...as well as Danny Hazard (who later pepper sprayed an older JW who came to his door). Both these men confirmed to me that Watchtower was right and that was what apostates were like. Because of these men, I didn't trust any exJW...not even JWfacts.

  Rick's shows are often a toxic mess.
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  Court documents reveal Watchtower's tactics in Montana child abuse case

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there were numerous objections and claims that watchtower lawyers made to try and get out of being held responsible for their negligence and malice.

  here’s the juicy ones:.

  montana is a mandatory reporting state, but watchtower lawyers claimed that the law for reporting abuse only applies to “individuals” and they are “corporations”.

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  Now the media reports make things look worse than if they had simply report the matter to the authorities, no matter if that was the law of the land or not.

  I do wonder if part of it is the idea that they cannot be seen to respond by change from the outside. That things must come from the top-down.

  Another thing is that even if a majority of the Governing Body were in favor of changing this, a minority can keep things as they are because they require a two thirds super majority (6 out of 8). It would take 3 people and the rest would be obligated to support the decision. I'm not sure what the majority consensus is, but I wonder if their hands are tied.
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  When did the Watchtower start the shunning?

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my husband and i were talking about the shunning part that the jws do?

  where can i find more accurate information on this subject?

  i am mainly trying to learn when the whole practice started, and stuff like that.

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  Londo111

  The early 50's.
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  Episode Nineteen - Lyndi is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a young girl finds herself in a new life, with new exciting hopes and dreams as part of the cult of jehovah’s witnesses, but with very real fears of doom with a looming armageddon.

  this story develops into a young jw marriage fraught with issues that often happen in such relationships.

  added to that is a pregnancy followed by postpartum depression, and a spiral that leads into new relationships that ultimately help her wake up to the realities of a life that she was given at such a young age.you can listen to the podcast on your podcast app of choice (itunes, apple podcast, google play, podcast republic is my app of choice, podbean, etc.)..

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  Londo111

  I am finishing this up (a few more commutes).

  Your work just gets better and better.
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  WATCHTOWER Is Trying To Put Cameras In All of Their Kingdom Halls

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of my best friends is in the security business.

  he told me the other day of how the watch tower has been in contact with his good friend and business associate.

  evidently they are inquiring about putting cameras into every kh so that they can do 24 hour monitoring.

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  I remember this going back to ~2005 or so in the Kingdom Hall I was going to.
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  JW's Would Stay With The Org Even If 1914 Was Dropped

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i asked the question on quora: .

  if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.

  https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.

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  Were I still in, that would've been a showstopper for me.

  Of course, it was researching 607/1914 why I woke up in late 2011.

  But then, most couldn't seem to explain in back then and zoned out whenever it was discussed.
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  Dis-fellowshipped For Not Going To The Kingdom Hall You Are Assigned Too

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my parents started attending the glendora congregation in 1961. my mother had a strange feeling about the congregation.

  there was something going on there that just didn’t feel right.

  there was a huge exodus going on of people leaving this congregation’s kingdom hall too.

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  I'm surprised after all that, you went to Bethel.
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  Agression @ latest Broadcasting

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i don’t get, is the agression seen in the latest, september broadcasting.. if something is not usefull here at g.’s home, we look if it can be used for an other purpose or store it or put it away in a trash bin.

  that’s what we learn our children.. it seems that for jw.org officials it is practice to get very angry and smash items on the floor.

  somehow the real face of brotherhood is showed here.

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  Yes, I have to say the expression on his face said it all.

  Ray Franz talked about the "velvet glove over an iron fist", but here the velvet glove slipped off for a moment.

  This is the true heart of the Organization.
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  JWFacts is incorrect about "Holy Spirit". Do YOU know about the 40 or so years the WT taught there was NO holy spirit?

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i did my own extensive research as i was getting out, and by exploring actual changes and mentions of core doctrine, i learned how it came about that the gb teach that only they know the truth and only they get holy spirit.

  i was checking if jwfacts had it, and although they mention many older articles, it seems they didn't realize they taught there was no holy spirit.

  this was a real big eye opener for me, so thought i'd share it, and curious if any of you knew about this yourselves????.

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  Londo111

  Rutherford said that the holy spirit did not direct the organization. Maybe we should take him at his word.