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  What is the most embarassing moment you've had while still a JW?

  by african GB Member in

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  i remember having to preach to my girlfriend/classmate while i was still at school.

  i was with one of the elders and it was my 'house' to preach.. wished i could vanish from the surface of the earth..

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  glueman

  Sorry, Bigmouth for the late response.

  I couldn't counsel her because I had no freeness of speech
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  4 Suicides I Am Aware Of This Year, Why Elders, COs Are Not Competent To Handle These Matters. (Life Or Death, Your Choice!)

  by AvocadoJake in

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  i would like to relate with the first suicide that took place this year, this was more than seven months ago.

  this person was deeply distraught and was talking about killing themself.

  the conduct of this person started to escalate (deep depression with morbid thoughts.

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  glueman

  I forgot to mention that my heart goes out to all who have similar circumstances and for those who have been deeply hurt by someone losing the battle over suicidal ideations.

  Peace and Love
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  4 Suicides I Am Aware Of This Year, Why Elders, COs Are Not Competent To Handle These Matters. (Life Or Death, Your Choice!)

  by AvocadoJake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like to relate with the first suicide that took place this year, this was more than seven months ago.

  this person was deeply distraught and was talking about killing themself.

  the conduct of this person started to escalate (deep depression with morbid thoughts.

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  glueman

  I suffer from major depressive disorder, PTSD and a couple other things and the organization did nothing but harm me, mentally speaking. Well I guess to be completely honest there was a mag article on PTSD that helped me to get properly diagnosed.

  The org couldn't help in any way. Mental illness is misunderstood by the majority of mankind, even more so within the organization. Regretfully there is still a stigma attached.

  I tried and tried to get peace and happiness within the confines but always falling short and never feeling adequate by any means. I attempted suicide twice while being a JW (once while serving as an elder). I believe that they did care and were concerned about me, but their training is simply insufficient and they should recognize this inadequacy. Holy spirit should be able to help anyone with anything, bah humbug. I can't tell you how many times I was quoted 1Pet 5:9 and told that somewhere in the world someone was just like me and are "accomplishing" better results. How cruel to to leave the impression that I'm not succeeding or doing good enough.

  And when I expressed that I was going to get "outside" help, there wasn't anyone who said that was a good thing and it was a wise choice, but rather that I should be very careful about it because of the potential for the influence of Satan and the bad influence of wordly thinking.

  "Shepherding visits" consisted of "encouragement" to "throw anxiety", live day to day, oh and the solution is Bible reading, meeting attendance, prayer and the ministry.

  When someone who is clinically mentally ill, those recommendations imply, once again, you are not doing enough or good enough.

  I loved the post that compared it to a physical ailments. Would you tell a cancer patient that they can be helped by their over simplified so-called solutions?

  Sickening (no pun intended).

  It was only after I found a good individual therapist, a great group of men in group therapy, psychotropic medications and 12-step programs that I could see the light of day, albeit somewhat cloudy.

  It was only in these situations that I learned that not everybody is so judgmental and began learning how not to judge myself.

  Thanks for reading.
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  True Pink Floyd Fans Only...(ok everyone is invited)

  by charlie brown jr. in

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  listening to a retro lunch...... this queensryche song comes on....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xuq6dw.

  the only song from them i like for 1 reason........ pink floyd rip off...... hidden voices..... and the corny...........help me!.

  lmao!!!.

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  glueman

  Major Pink Floyd fan here.

  The original comment, I think, was about Pink Floyd being heard elsewhere.

  I always pinned Queensryche as heavily influenced by Pink Floyd, right down to creating a concept album (which I like, by the way).

  Radiohead is another. Listen to Exit Music (For a Film) and when the drums come in you cannot miss (if you're a fan) the similarity to Meddle-era Floyd.

  A bit of a longer stretch is Tool (another band I love). Floyd's influence on them is seen in their use of imagery in their live show, long form songs, themes of isolation, spacey atmospheric music, holding out on I-tunes (at least until recently), etc.

  My $0.02
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  It's Time to Stop Saying...

  by zengalileo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it's time to stop saying that jehovah's witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.

  it just isn't true any longer.

  i have posted documentary evidence of jws world wide accepting whole platelets , whole plasma, whole white blood cells, their own whole blood after it being stored up to six hours, and evidence of them saying they are "very happy" that the courts ordered the transfusion of their children saving their lives.

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  It's my opinion that as soon as they started dealing with the components of blood (blood fractions) and certain procedures (i.e. blood salvage) as being a conscience matter, it blew the whole dogma out of the park. Blood is blood is blood no matter how it's divided.

  The "slave" got more lenient as more of them needed medical treatments involving blood.

  The GB have blood on their hands.
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  What was your most DISTURBING event as an elder ? (Per T.O.S. no full names please).

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
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  i'll start the ball rolling.

  dealing with kids in any type of judicial manner.

  i would do everything i could to get parents to "deal with it-kindly" at home.

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  glueman

  I appreciate that Bigmac.
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  What is the most embarassing moment you've had while still a JW?

  by african GB Member in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember having to preach to my girlfriend/classmate while i was still at school.

  i was with one of the elders and it was my 'house' to preach.. wished i could vanish from the surface of the earth..

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  glueman

  Having an elderly sister ask me for my help with her problem of masturbating several times a day.

  No offense to the elderly or to the masturbators
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  What was your most DISTURBING event as an elder ? (Per T.O.S. no full names please).

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'll start the ball rolling.

  dealing with kids in any type of judicial manner.

  i would do everything i could to get parents to "deal with it-kindly" at home.

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  Thanks for the kind welcome, Cedars.
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  Acts 15:29 & Revelation 2:14,20

  by allyouneedislove in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard the assertion that acts 15:29 saying: "keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood" was a decree set forth as a recommendation to keep christian gentiles from stumbing christian jews.

  the same assertion says that 1 corinthians 8 makes it clear that it is a conscience matter to "keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols".

  however, revelation 2:14,20 seems to show that eating things sacrificed to idols is much more serious of a grievance.. .

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  I love the part that says to abstain from things "strangled".

  Not to get too political here but how many JW's are concerned with how they get their pork or beef. Evidence proves that many pigs are not completely killed prior to being "bathed" in scalding liquid to get their hair off.

  A good portion of our meat (no pun intended) has been a sphyxiated.

  It's crazy just how many words or phrases are continuously ignored in passages that are frequently referred to for this, that or the other.

  Guess we'll all go down to Gehenna for that one.
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  What was your most DISTURBING event as an elder ? (Per T.O.S. no full names please).

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'll start the ball rolling.

  dealing with kids in any type of judicial manner.

  i would do everything i could to get parents to "deal with it-kindly" at home.

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  glueman

  My first post. Thanks for being here.

  My worst memories as an elder were definitely judicial committees. I was strong armed more than once for being a dissident. I believe I was called a maverick, if memory serves.

  One disgusting case was dealing with a drug addict who relapsed a few times. Being an addict myself, it killed me inside to see the insidiousness of the committee and outcome. The poor guy was disfellowshipped when he needed love, forgiveness and help at a most difficult time. The idea of hiding sins being equal to non-repentance is a farce. David hid his "gross" sin with Bathsheba for at least nine months and there are more scriptural examples of such.

  Another case was from a neighboring hall that a close elder friend confided in me on, since his conscience was justifiably stricken. There was a baptized boy 16 years old who confessed to "immorality" with an unbaptized, "interested" person who was active at the meetings. She was 22! A judicial committee being formed on what is legally statuatory rape is unthinkable, but he was disfellowshipped. Not a thing happened with the woman. Being raped as a child myself, this was one of the straws that broke my back.

  I served on a committee for reinstatement once where it was found out that the brother was never even officially disfellowshipped. He lived a life without family and friends for decades believing he was disfellowshipped where we couldn't even get it clear if an announcement was made and there was no paperwork at headquarters.

  Finally, my worst judicial committee experience was when I was on the other side of the table. While serving as an elder I had recently had a serious relapse, attempted suicide and was in a psychiatric ward at the hospital. I had been hiding some other "illicit" activities and confessed these to my wife when she asked. Of course, at that time I was supposed to confess these to the elders. In a psyche ward office, I kid you not, two brothers drilled me on my life. I get out of the hospital and within a week I'm in a committee. They take two weeks to finally agree to disfellowship me. I asked them, pleaded actually, to announce it immediately since my family (I had two teenage girls) had been undergoing tremendous anxiety about it and wanted them to start to move on. Of course my request was denied, even when I told them I wasn't going to appeal, and we had to wait another a week for the announcement.

  Oh I'm sure we could go on and on about these things. What can a loving, merciful God think of these things?

  I do have one question for you all though...I cannot find a direct reference to an actual judicial committee in the Greek scriptures. Is there?

  Sorry about the long post, guess I'm just excited to be here.

  Thanks for reading.