This kid has no idea of the pain she is setting herself up for.
out4good3
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Question for Current or Former Elders (baptism of minors)
by Michelle365 ini have joint custody of my two children with my ex husband who is still raising the kids on his time as jws.
my 11 year old claims she is getting baptized at the next assembly.
i have heard that i can write a letter to the boe and say that i oppose her getting baptized before she is 18. is that true?
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The experience that changed my life
by hijosdelawatch ini have been lurking for a long time here and i think i'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.. .
i was born in a jw family and i grew up as the average jehovah's witness does.
even being very young, i helped with the territories and other work in the congregation.
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out4good3
Just imagine if you had signed it, taken it to them, been firm, and your mother died from complications. No way of knowing if she would have, but if that happened, you would have a very different feeling than the one you have now.
Indeed.
The few minutes he would've been able to spend as a JW superstar is not a good trade in relation to having his mother in his life.
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'Apostates want to draw people after themselves'--what are they really implying?
by sd-7 inwhen jws say this, what are they really saying?
i was pondering this recently, and i was thinking...what they're really trying to imply is simple:.
apostates are thus accused of attempting to be cult leaders.. because the idea is that since they're not getting people to follow christ, but follow themselves, then they want their 'victims'' belief system to be centered around an individual, following that person's directions.
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out4good3
SD-7
I've given that a lot of thought and have come to pretty much the same conclusion as you, although along a different vein.
Instead of the implication of the soceity thinking of all ex-JW as potential cult leaders, I think that they are just afraid of increased competition from other religious charismatics pimping their personal spiritual plane.
For the most part, their tactics has been largely successful in that most draw away from religion altogether upon their exit from being a JW.
Speaking for myself, after my exit my thoughts on organized religion pretty much follow the path of those of Thomas Paine. In his pamphlet, The Age of Reason, he speaks of national religious institutions appearing to be nothing more than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind and monopolize power and profit under the guise of pretending to be on some type of special mission from God. (www.historytools.org/sources/Paine-Age-of-Reason.pdf).
Does that resemble any particular organization you've been affiliated with?
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Do You Care About "The Royal Baby"?
by minimus ini don't get it.
(and i don't care about america's "royalty" either)..
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out4good3
Nope. Don't give a rat's ass about it.
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Do you remember your Baptism Talk?
by bildad indo you remember anything from your baptism talk or the brother who gave it?.
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out4good3
NO, but I think my wife has it and me being baptised on VHS videotape somewhere at home though. She guards it like a gold brick, I think, in the hopes that one day, I'll come back.
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How does TTATT affect your marriage??
by Crazyguy injust wondering of those of you that have left or are fading and have married ones still in, how is it going, is there hope or is the marriage doomed?
wondering what are the percentages.
i'm fading fast but wife is zealous as ever and we don't talk spiritual things at all anymore.
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out4good3
I thought I'd literally crushed my wife when after a direct question from her a few years ago, I told her that I didn't believe in the "truth" as interpreted by Jehovahs witnesses and that I'd never go back. I've demonstrated that I understand and respect that she believed, I understood that she'd grown up in it, that it was all she's been exposed to, but I had to be true to my conscious.
I've caught her several times trying to phrase questions in such a way that I couldn't possibly disagree with the answers as expressed by the soceity, but I've been able to give her well reasoned answers as to why what they say could possibly been in error.
She left the room and cried for awhile. I assured her that as far as our marriage goes, my commitment to it was as strong as ever. I tell her all the time that whatever issues she has with the marriage that she might as well talk about it, get over it, or agree to disagree as it is what it is and I "ain't" going anywhere.
We're coming up fast on our 30th year anniversary.
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Can this logic be refuted?
by notsurewheretogo ini was an elder until march 2012 until i resigned.
i then stopped going to meetings in october 2012 and have enjoyed 9 months of freedom that i have found to be jouful!
i loved learning ttatt and sites like this and jwfacts.com have been excellent.. i told the elders that i needed a break and that they should not contact me unless it was a social visit and true to their word they have done that.
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out4good3
Understood...
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Can this logic be refuted?
by notsurewheretogo ini was an elder until march 2012 until i resigned.
i then stopped going to meetings in october 2012 and have enjoyed 9 months of freedom that i have found to be jouful!
i loved learning ttatt and sites like this and jwfacts.com have been excellent.. i told the elders that i needed a break and that they should not contact me unless it was a social visit and true to their word they have done that.
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out4good3
I frankly don't understand why you are asking this question.
First off, in your initial post, you state that you were an elder just resigned. In that case, you should be thoroughly grounded on how your presention of logic will play out.
All you have to do is imagine what would have been your response if you were sitting across from a congregant with the same presentation of facts with another brother at your side playing good cop\bad cop when you were still an elder.
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Too sick or injured but still made it to the meeting!
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini once attended a two day special assembly with my gums bleeding after having 4 widom teeth pulled the day before.
i managed the two days by rinsing out my mouth all day long and placing cotton in my mouth.. one brother had back surgery the week before but attended a two day assembly by laying on a matress in the back of the assembly hall.
why he needed to be there i'll never understand!.
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out4good3
It was this rigid devotion to meetings that was first issue that drove me out.
I did not want my whole being to revolved around a strict regimen of meetings, weekend service, and subservience to a whole congregation of people scrutinizing every decision I made to see if it was consistent with the latest WT thought under the guise of being faithful and loyal to God.
I even said as much to two JW elders the last time they visited me I believe at the request of my wife.
Surprised I wasn't df'd on the spot.
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We Demand The Freedom to Say That One plus One = Two !
by BluesBrother inin george orwell's masterpiece "1984" winston smith makes the following observation about the state he was living under :.
"the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
it was their final, most essential command.
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