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  Comments on Ezekiel

  by IronGland in

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  robert r. wilson writes: "in jewish tradition the interpretation of ezekiel has been particularly difficult because some of the legal material contained in chaps.

  40-48 contradicts the laws of the torah.

  the babylonian talmud reports that this fact caused some rabbis to advocate withdrawing the book from circulation, a fate that was avoided only through the extraordinary efforts of hananiah son of hezekiah, who successfully reconciled the contradictions (b. sabb.

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  TO MUCH INFORMATION TO THINK ABOUT FOR THIS AUDIENCE.

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  WTS financial secrets

  by greendawn in

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  does anyone know who is/are the ultimate insectors of the wt's finances?

  and is there any transparency in their finances and also accountability to the public?

  can we really know what they do with the profits?

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  WHENEVER THERE IS LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY INVOLVED IN ANY ORGANIZATION WITH NO PUBLIC ACCOUNTING, WATCH OUT!

  SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS? POSSIBLY! ALL OF THE GOVERNING BODY MAY NOT EVEN BE INFORMED.

  WHEN THEY USED TO ASK THE BROTHERS FOR FUNDS TO PURCHASE PROPERTY THEY NEVER LET US KNOW HOW MUCH THEY NEEDED OR RECEIVED! SOMETIMES YOU COULD FIND OUT THE COST OF THINGS IF YOU SUBSCRIBED TO THE BROOKLYN HEGHTS PRESS.

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  I'm not one for...

  by love11 in

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  introductions so i never said the official "hi i'm a newbie thing".

  now i'm a junior member and i thought that maybe i should speak up and just say hi to everybody out here that gave me good advice when i needed it and made me laugh in spite of things.

  hi to all that i haven't gotten a chance to talk to yet and hopefully we'll get the chance here soon.

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  DON'T EAT YELLOW SNOW!

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  I'm not one to get into celebrity gossip but,

  by heatherg in

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  what do you all think of prince charles and camilla?

  i think it's horrible and teaching a horrible lesson.

  look at us, it' okay to cheat on your spouses, because in the end we'll get each other anyway.

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  I REMEMBER CHARLES' FIRST MARRIAGE. SOME PAPER LISTED ALL THE GIFTS THEY RECEIVED, AND ONE OF THEM WAS THE BOOK 'THE TRUTH THAT LEADS TO EVERLASTING LIFE'!

  HOPEFULLY NO ONE GAVE THEM A WATCHTOWER PUBLICATION THIS TIME AS THEN THE MARRIAGE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE!

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  Where are you right this minute?

  by coffee_black in

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  i thought it might be interesting to see where everyone is...home...work...someplace interesting?.

  i'm in the world trade center in boston, sitting looking out at boston harbor.

  i have to do a presentation today at the build boston show... a tradeshow for architects and builders.

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  JUST SITTING HERE IN THE FRONT LIVING ROOM THINKING ABOUT WHERE I WANT TO EAT IN CHICAGO THIS SUMMER.

  THANKS FOR THE PM.

  I LIKE MY COFFEE BLACK TOO!

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  Something our Circuit Overseer said.

  by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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  he said that if we take time to argue or disagree with someone at the door then our guardian angel is already waiting at the next door with out us.

  basically what this does is train us to flee from anything that may conflict with what we are trying to teach or anything that we may believe.

  to stay at the door and .

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  THIS CO IS FULL OF CRAP!

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  License number I liked

  by Mulan in

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  there is a car i see occasionally, in our area, that has a license plate i would love to have.

  it isn't a vanity plate, just a random number with letters.. it is "jwx 123" (not sure of the numbers) the first part i just love!

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  HOW ABOUT................YRUAJW

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  OPEN LETTER TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  by Outaservice in

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  you may not remember, but i know you very well.

  i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices, and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.

  you told me beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly.

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  YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER, BUT I KNOW YOU VERY WELL. I MET YOU A LONG TIME AGO WHEN YOU CAME TO MY HOUSE WITH YOUR SMILING FACES, YOUR NEAT CLOTHES, AND YOUR SOFT VOICES, AND A BIBLE TUCKED NEATLY UNDER YOUR ARM. YOU TOLD ME BEAUTIFUL STORIES OF A "PARADISE EARTH," AND A "RIGHTEOUS NEW SYSTEM" WHICH WOULD BE ESTABLISHED SHORTLY. YOU BEGUILED ME; I LISTENED AND I LET YOU TEACH ME YOUR FORM OF CHRIST-DIGNITY.

  I LOVED YOU. I DEVOTED MOST OF MY LIFE TO YOU, I WAS LOYAL AND OBEDIENT, NEVER REALIZING THAT ONE DAY I WOULD COME TO DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAD TO SAY. WHEN I FIRST MET YOU AND LEARNED OF THE "PARADISE", LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT PARADISE, I WOULD HAVE TO WALK OVER THE DEAD BODIES OF BELOVED FAMILY, CHERISHED FRIENDS, AND CASUAL ACQUAINTANCES, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. WITH YOUR SOFT, SWEET VOICES, AND GENTLE MANNER, YOU CONVINCED ME THAT EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE WHO DID NOT AGREE WITH YOU WAS "EVIL". I CAME TO BELIEVE THAT OTHER CHURCHES WERE BAD AND OF THE DEVIL, AND SO WERE THEIR MEMBERS. I BECAME CONVINCED THAT ALL GOVERNMENTS WERE WICKED, INCLUDING MY OWN, AND THAT I WAS NOT TO SUPPORT THE COUNTRY IN WHICH I LIVED. I BELIEVED YOU, I LOVED YOU, TRUSTED YOU, AND SERVED YOU AND NEVER SUSPECTED THAT YOU WERE CAPABLE OF DECEIVING ME.

  I LOVED YOU SO MUCH THAT I RAISED MY PRECIOUS CHILDREN AS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. I TAUGHT THEM THAT YOU WERE TRUSTWORTHY, AND TRUE FOLLOWERS OF GOD AND JESUS. I TRAINED THEM TO BELIEVE YOUR EVERY WORD. HOW COULD I HAVE KNOWN THAT IN THE FUTURE YOU WOULD STEAL MY OWN FLESH AND BLOOD FROM MY ARMS AND PREVENT THEM FROM SEEING ME BECAUSE I WOULD COME TO DISAGREE WITH YOU? I NEVER NOTICED FANGS OF OPPRESSION AND TYRANNY THAT LURKED BEHIND THOSE GENTLE SMILES. I NEVER KNEW THAT I WOULD BE EXPECTED TO HAND OVER MY MIND, SOUL AND SPIRIT TO YOU, AND IF I WERE TO EVER WANT THEM BACK, YOU WOULD HOLD MY CHILDREN HOSTAGES AND NO AMOUNT OF BEGGING AND TEARS WOULD RELEASE THEM FROM YOUR FIRM GRIP BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN RAISED TO LOOK AT YOU AS BEING GOD, RATHER THAN MERE MEN.

  WHEN I CAME TO YOU, I WAS YOUNG AND PRETTY AND IMPRESSIONABLE, LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, MY CREATOR. BUT THROUGH SLICK WORDS AND EMPTY SPEECHES YOU CONVINCED ME THAT I WAS NOT REALLY A CHILD OF GOD, THAT MY DUTY WAS TO THE ORGANIZATION-- THAT THEY WOULD TELL ME WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO THINK. THROUGH YEARS OF DOMINATION AND MANIPULATION I BEGAN TO ACCEPT THE MEAGER FOOD THAT WAS BEING OFFERED TO ME, AND BECAME WILLING TO ACCEPT IT AS THE TRUE "SPIRITUAL" FOOD FROM THE MASTER, WHILE ALL THE TIME FEELING THE GNAWING AT MY BODY. FINALLY, I DISCOVERED THAT I HAD BEEN ROBBED OF MY JOY, MY LOVE, MY COMPASSION, AND MY MERCY, AND IT WAS REPLACED WITH A LEGALISTIC, DOCTRINAL FORMULA WHICH PROVIDED ME WITH FEAR, GUILT, AND ANXIETY TO FILL MY HUNGRY HEART. WHEN I SAID, "I WANT MORE THAN THIS," YOU SLAPPED ME WITH YOUR SOFT LITTLE HAND, WHICH HAD NOW TURNED INTO AN IRON FIST OF OPPRESSION. YES, YOU FOOLED ME ALL ALONG, YOUR DECEPTION WAS BECAUSE YOU HAD BEEN FOOLED TOO, A LONG TIME AGO, BY OTHERS WHO HAD TAKEN YOU CAPTIVE TO THEIR DICTATORIAL REIGN OF TERROR. YOU CONVINCED ME THAT THE WORDS OF MEN WERE THE WORDS OF GOD BECAUSE YOU REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS TRUE. I BELIEVED YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE GENTLE, SOFT SPOKEN, AND CARRIED THE BIBLE UNDER YOUR ARM.

  YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU HAD "FREEDOM" AND IT WAS ONLY LATER, WHEN I TRIED TO ESCAPE YOUR BRAND OF "FREEDOM" THAT I DISCOVERED THAT THE IRON BARS OF THE GATE HAD BEEN SHUT AND I WAS AT YOUR MERCY BECAUSE, BY THIS TIME, YOU HAD ALREADY GAINED CONTROL OF MY MIND AND MY EMOTIONS. I CRIED AND BEGGED YOU TO PLEASE LET ME GO, AND YOU SAID, WITH YOUR FIRM, ROARING VOICE, "NOT UNTIL I HAVE STRIPPED YOU NAKED", AND YOU DID! YOU STRIPPED ME OF MY DIGNITY, MY SELF-RESPECT, MY HONOR, AND MY 'FAMILY'. YOU TOLD ALL MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT I WAS DEMONIC, EVIL, AN APOSTATE, A SPIRITUAL FORNICATOR, AND GOOD FOR NOTHING BUT TOTAL DESTRUCTION BY YOUR ANGRY GOD WHOM YOU HAD TRIED TO PASS OFF AS A GOD OF "LOVE". THEY BELIEVED YOU, AND THEY STILL BELIEVE YOU, BECAUSE THEIR EYES ARE BLINDED BY THE PROMISE OF "PARADISE", AND THEY CANNOT "SEE" THE HELL THAT SURROUNDS THEM. THE EVER ILLUSIVE "PARADISE" IS HELD OUT TO THE GULLIBLE LIKE A CARROT IN FRONT OF THE NOSE OF A RABBIT, AND CAUSES THEM TO SACRIFICE THEIR FAMILY, FRIENDS, CAREERS, EDUCATION, HOPES AND DREAMS ON THE ALTER OF THE WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY.

  NOW, I'M OLDER, NOW I'M WISER, BUT NOW IT IS TOO LATE -- LIFE IS FAST SLIPPING AWAY. THROUGH MY TEARS, I CRY OUT FOR MY BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER AND GRANDCHILDREN, BUT YOU GRIP THEM TIGHTER AND TIGHTER AND TELL THEM THAT 'YOU' WILL BE THEIR "MOTHER'! AND SO YOU ARE, AND SO YOU ARE! I BEGGED TO RECAPTURE MY HONOR AND DIGNITY, BUT YOU LAUGHED WITH YOUR BRIGHT SHINING TEETH, AND SAID, "NO WAY, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN." SOMEHOW THOSE SOFT, PRETTY WORDS WEREN'T SOFT AND PRETTY ANYMORE, BUT WORDS OF SLANDER, ABUSE, HATRED, AND HOSTILITY -- AND YOU SAID THEM IN SUCH A WAY THAT OTHERS WOULD THINK THAT YOU WERE 'RIGHTEOUS' AND I WAS 'EVI;'. YOU LIED ABOUT ME, BUT NOW ONE WILL BELIEVE YOU 'LIED' BECAUSE THEY TRUST YOU -- THAT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE SOFT SPOKEN, GENTLE, AND CARRY A BIBLE TUCKED NEATLY UNDER YOUR ARM.

  GAILA NOBLE, ARIZONA

  I think a lot of us car relate with Gaila and our heart goes out to her.

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  What Was Your Greatest "Privilege" In The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  was it being able to join the theocratic ministry school?

  being a regular pioneer?

  "handling microphones"?

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  I WAS A 'PALM TREE' IN ONE OF THE DRAMAS!

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  Chomping on a Chocolate Cross

  by JAVA in

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  i saw this article off the ap wire service this morning, and thought some on the forum might enjoy the read:

  "kansas city, mo.

  (ap) ?

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  Whatever is done, made, or said will be condemmed or critisied by someone. There are probably more important issues to debate in this world than some candy company making chocolate crosses! Hope they come in 'dark' chocolate!

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