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  Are angels allowed to redeem others from all evil?

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  genesis 48:15-16.

  15 and he blessed joseph and said, “the god before whom my fathers abraham and isaac walked, the god who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day, 16 [the angel] who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys; and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers abraham and isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.” – .

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  Sounds like Theophany to me. Interesting take on these passages. Thank you.
  
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  Are angels allowed to redeem others from all evil?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  genesis 48:15-16.

  15 and he blessed joseph and said, “the god before whom my fathers abraham and isaac walked, the god who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day, 16 [the angel] who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys; and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers abraham and isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.” – .

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  Are angels allowed to redeem others from all evil?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  genesis 48:15-16.

  15 and he blessed joseph and said, “the god before whom my fathers abraham and isaac walked, the god who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day, 16 [the angel] who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys; and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers abraham and isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.” – .

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  Genesis 48:15-16
  

  15 And he blessed Joseph and said, “The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, the God who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day, 16 [the angel] who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys; and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.” –

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  1) Do angels have the authority to redeem all from evil? to bless humans? Are angels allowed to REDEEM others from ALL evil?

  2) Grammar-"may he bless"-The form in Hebrew is grammatically singular. If the verses are talking about two different beings, the phrase "may he bless" would be changed to "may they bless". God and the angel are the singular grammatical subject of the request to bless the boys. ("Angels"-Heiser pg 63)
  

  I would think that ONLY Jehovah or Jesus through Jehovah has the power to redeem others from ALL evil.
  

  Powers and Privileges-pg 107-Insight Volume 1
  

  1) Superhuman in power-strength & speed

  2) Limitation

  3) Minister

  4) Their messages contributed toward the writing of the Bible.

  I do not see such an authority on their list of powers and privileges in the Insight Book.

  Where in the Bible does it state that angels are given the authority to redeem others from all evil?

  
  
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  Genesis 8:21 is not referring to the whole earth?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  genesis 8:21 .

  "this particular text was written in the wake of the assyrian invasion of judah and the siege of jerusalem by sennacherib in 703-701 bc (20 years after he had already wiped out israel).

  here the author resorts to hyperbole (exaggeration) in describing the utter destruction of the land of judah: that is, the destruction of judah is envisioned as the destruction of the whole earth.

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  Genesis 8:21

  "This particular text was written in the wake of the Assyrian invasion of Judah and the siege of Jerusalem by Sennacherib in 703-701 BC (20 years after he had already wiped out Israel). Here the author resorts to hyperbole (exaggeration) in describing the utter destruction of the land of Judah: that is, the destruction of Judah is envisioned as the destruction of the whole earth. 2 Kings 18:13-17 briefly alludes to this destruction."

  With this interpretation, how does it effect the next verse? Genesis 8:22 -While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
  
  
  
  
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  Why not extend your child's life and take the consequences?

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  jehovah's witnesses & blood transfusions.

  if your son or daughter were badly burned, he or she would require regular whole blood transfusions.

  as a good jehovah's witness, it is your duty to refuse this procedure and watch your child die instead.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses & Blood Transfusions
  

  If your son or daughter were badly burned, he or she would require regular whole blood transfusions. As a good Jehovah's Witness, it is your duty to refuse this procedure and watch your child die instead. However, as a parent, this choice will be excruciatingly painful, and you would prefer to die instead. Well, WHY NOT die in his or her place? Surely, if you take the initiative to transfuse your child, Jehovah will not blame him or her. That would not be showing perfect justice. You and YOU ALONE will take the blame, and Jehovah will merely cut you off when the time comes. Isn't this better than watching your boy or girl take one for the team by making the ultimate sacrifice? Why not be brave and suffer the consequences instead? Perhaps Jehovah will see that you are showing pure, unselfish love and forgive this heroic action.

  https://youtu.be/YGta4qIGVls
  
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  Are there close parallels between Deuteronomy 32:8, Genesis 10 and the Ugaritic tablets?

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  according to these sources (city of ancient ugaritic tablets found in 1928) , elyon divided up all the nations into seventy nations, one for each of his sons (elim) .

  sons of god makes the most sense than the sons of israel-deut.

  32:8 especially since there was no nation of israel listed in the table of nations.

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  I will research Dr. Foley's information!! INCREDIBLE!! Thank you again!
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  Does this make any sense “according to the number of the sons of Israel” ?

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  how does god dividing humankind and fixing the boundaries of the peoples “according to the number of the sons of israel” make any sense if the nation of israel did not even exist yet?

  (genesis 10) "it makes little sense for god, shortly after he dispersed the nations at babel, to have based the number of geographical regions on the earth on the family size of israel, especially since there was no jewish race at the time (genesis 10 table of nations).

  this problem is compounded when one considers deuteronomy 32:9. what logical correlation was moses making when he wrote in verse 8 that god "set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of israel" and then made the concluding observation in verse 9 that "the lord's portion is his people, jacob his allotted inheritance" (niv)?

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  Thank you so much Mr/Mrs careful
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  Does this make any sense “according to the number of the sons of Israel” ?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  how does god dividing humankind and fixing the boundaries of the peoples “according to the number of the sons of israel” make any sense if the nation of israel did not even exist yet?

  (genesis 10) "it makes little sense for god, shortly after he dispersed the nations at babel, to have based the number of geographical regions on the earth on the family size of israel, especially since there was no jewish race at the time (genesis 10 table of nations).

  this problem is compounded when one considers deuteronomy 32:9. what logical correlation was moses making when he wrote in verse 8 that god "set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of israel" and then made the concluding observation in verse 9 that "the lord's portion is his people, jacob his allotted inheritance" (niv)?

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  Yep! Not sure how to delete it.
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  Does this make any sense “according to the number of the sons of Israel” ?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  how does god dividing humankind and fixing the boundaries of the peoples “according to the number of the sons of israel” make any sense if the nation of israel did not even exist yet?

  (genesis 10) "it makes little sense for god, shortly after he dispersed the nations at babel, to have based the number of geographical regions on the earth on the family size of israel, especially since there was no jewish race at the time (genesis 10 table of nations).

  this problem is compounded when one considers deuteronomy 32:9. what logical correlation was moses making when he wrote in verse 8 that god "set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of israel" and then made the concluding observation in verse 9 that "the lord's portion is his people, jacob his allotted inheritance" (niv)?

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  How does God dividing humankind and fixing the boundaries of the peoples “according to the number of the sons of Israel” make any sense if the nation of Israel did not even exist yet? (Genesis 10)
  
  "It makes little sense for God, shortly after He dispersed the nations at Babel, to have based the number of geographical regions on the earth on the family size of Israel, especially since there was no Jewish race at the time (Genesis 10 Table of Nations). This problem is compounded when one considers Deuteronomy 32:9. What logical correlation was Moses making when he wrote in verse 8 that God "set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel" and then made the concluding observation in verse 9 that "the LORD'S portion is his people, Jacob his allotted inheritance" (NIV)? Certainly the wording suggests a contrast between verses 8 and 9." -Dr. Heiser (M.A., Ph.D., Hebrew Bible and Semitic Studies)
  
  *According to these sources (City of Ancient Ugaritic tablets found in 1928), Elyon divided up all the nations into seventy nations, one for each of his sons (Elim).
  
  Masoretic Text. "Sons of Israel" ca. 10 century
  
  Septuagint. A Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures. The oldest copies are in Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus ca. 4th century ad. "Sons of God"
  
  Dead Sea Scrolls. Over 100,000 fragments of text, comprising more than 800 biblical and non-biblical manuscripts ca. 250 BC–AD 70. "Sons of God"
  
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  Daniel 10:13 and 20 speak of demons governing their respective nations?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  territorial spirits-.

  daniel 10:13,20 prince of persia.

  deut: 32:9 “when the most high divided the nations, when he separated the sons of adam, he set the bounds of the nations according to the number of the angels of god.

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  Territorial Spirits-
  

  Daniel 10:13,20 Prince of Persia

  Deut: 32:9 “When the Most High divided the nations, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the nations according to the number of the angels of God. And his people Jacob became the portion of the Lord, Israel was the line of his inheritance.” (Deuteronomy 32:7-9 Jerome’s version of the Septuagint)

  The administration of the various nations has been parcelled out among a corresponding number of angelic powers
  

  I only came across 2 mentioned in the Hebrew Bible
  

  Prince (sar) of Persia- It took an extra powerful Archangel (Michael) to kick some ass.

  Prince (sar) of Greece

  Prince of Israel-Michael the Archangel

  Perhaps some books of the Apocrapha may have more info on these princes???