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I_love_Jeff
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Which logical fallacy is being used here by this Jehovah's Witness responder?
by I_love_Jeff inhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ajkx.ygxlhrevzucyabujrpty6ix;_ylv=3?qid=20121217130952aak8l6h.
the responder is bar-anerges (a popular jw responder on ya) and he is using a common fallacy or perhaps more than one in his response to the question.
will someone please assist me in narrowing down which one/s he may be using.
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Which logical fallacy is being used here by this Jehovah's Witness responder?
by I_love_Jeff inhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ajkx.ygxlhrevzucyabujrpty6ix;_ylv=3?qid=20121217130952aak8l6h.
the responder is bar-anerges (a popular jw responder on ya) and he is using a common fallacy or perhaps more than one in his response to the question.
will someone please assist me in narrowing down which one/s he may be using.
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I_love_Jeff
Appeal to Ridicule, perhaps...tahnks Witness My Fury
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Which logical fallacy is being used here by this Jehovah's Witness responder?
by I_love_Jeff inhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ajkx.ygxlhrevzucyabujrpty6ix;_ylv=3?qid=20121217130952aak8l6h.
the responder is bar-anerges (a popular jw responder on ya) and he is using a common fallacy or perhaps more than one in his response to the question.
will someone please assist me in narrowing down which one/s he may be using.
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I_love_Jeff
The Responder is Bar-Anerges (a popular JW responder on YA) and he is using a common fallacy or perhaps more than one in his response to the question. Will someone please assist me in narrowing down which one/s he may be using. I think one would be false dilemma. What do you guys/gals think? Let me know if the link does not work, I will gladly copy and paste the response here. Thank you for your help in this matter.
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Why do the Jehovah's Witnesses agree with certain beliefs and not others especially coming from someone they quote most often?
by I_love_Jeff inof course i am talking about tertullian.
i presented this topic to jehovah's witnesses one time and they were not able to clearly explain why.
tertullian held certain beliefs contrary to the jws but there are some things the jws do agree with and often quote them in their articles.
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I_love_Jeff
Problematic-
"At the heart of your question, am I understanding you are asking if it is ethical to accept the writings of someone to support your viewpoint on doctrine, even if that person at their core didn't believe int he doctrine you did?"
Exactly
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Why do the Jehovah's Witnesses agree with certain beliefs and not others especially coming from someone they quote most often?
by I_love_Jeff inof course i am talking about tertullian.
i presented this topic to jehovah's witnesses one time and they were not able to clearly explain why.
tertullian held certain beliefs contrary to the jws but there are some things the jws do agree with and often quote them in their articles.
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I_love_Jeff
Of course I am talking about Tertullian. I presented this topic to Jehovah's Witnesses one time and they were not able to clearly explain why. Tertullian held certain beliefs contrary to the JWs BUT there are some things the JWs do agree with and often quote them in their articles. Does this kind of thinking pertain to the old light and new light theory? It's okay to accept certain beliefs from a Christian apologist but scrape the others that do not jive with their own man-made doctrine? eisegetical apporach, perhaps? If a Jehovah's Witnesses says to an Elder: "There are certains JW beliefs I do not agree with but other points I do accept". What do you think that sounds like? Is that not grounds for a potential disfellowshipping (of the ring-just had to include that for kicks)?.
Anyway, on a serious note-would that not be hypocritical to accept certain beliefs from someone they quote most often and scrape the rest? I am talking about religious beliefs (the heart of one's religion). For example, I enjoy reading biblical archeaology and astronomy. There was an article I read online yesterday about the star of bethlehem, it discussed the planetary positions right around the birth of the Christ child. He may have been born around late May according to these astronomers/astrologers (authors of the article). Some may agree and others may not. My point is that it is something I may just agree with because of the partial scientific approach on that particular subject matter. Within my sect (let's say I'm Catholic), would I not be deemed a hypocrite if I do not believe the traditional date given by religious leaders? Let me give a better example pertaining to the Jehovah's Witnesses: Let's say Brother Tom read several pages from Tertullian's Apology and noticed several quotes that do not agree with his own beliefs. So brother Tom discusses this with another Elder who enjoys reading Tertullian and agrees with most of his writings. What would the Elder say to Brother Tom about his disagreements? Old Light vs. New Light?
When Jehovah's Witnesses quote from a religious apologist, should they not agree with his entire beliefs instead of picking and choosing which is what they do best?
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Did Jehovah use non-believers to accomplish His will?
by I_love_Jeff in(again we have a questioned geared toward the jehovah's witnesses who strongly believe the star was a horama (illusion) crafted by satan.
this horama supposedly directed the magi who were apparently influenced by satan.).
if so, then what is wrong with god allowing the magi to accomplish his will by sending them out to find the christ?.
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I_love_Jeff
ouch lol
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Did Jehovah use non-believers to accomplish His will?
by I_love_Jeff in(again we have a questioned geared toward the jehovah's witnesses who strongly believe the star was a horama (illusion) crafted by satan.
this horama supposedly directed the magi who were apparently influenced by satan.).
if so, then what is wrong with god allowing the magi to accomplish his will by sending them out to find the christ?.
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I_love_Jeff
LOL
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If Daniel was the chief of the Magoi then why did God choose a pagan to be a prophet?
by I_love_Jeff intwo part question:.
if god allowed daniel to be chief of the magoi, why would the magi be considered bad in the eyes of jah, according to the jehovah's witnesses?
the jehovah's witnesses of course believe that the magi, pagan astrologers, were not god's messengers because of their dabblings in the occult.
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I_love_Jeff
Rephrase-historical background, that is.
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My last question needs to be revised. Here it is: Why did Jehovah allow the Prophet Daniel to be the Chief of the Magi?
by I_love_Jeff in........if jehovah considered the magi to be practitioners of the occult arts?.
*daniel was appointed chief of magi by king darius.. *jehovah thought highly of king darius- jehovah used king darius of persia to praise his holy name throughout persia (daniel 6:16-27).
this question is geared toward the jehovah's witnesses who believe that the magi was directed by satan because of their supposed practice of the occult arts.. .
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I_love_Jeff
NKJ
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If Daniel was the chief of the Magoi then why did God choose a pagan to be a prophet?
by I_love_Jeff intwo part question:.
if god allowed daniel to be chief of the magoi, why would the magi be considered bad in the eyes of jah, according to the jehovah's witnesses?
the jehovah's witnesses of course believe that the magi, pagan astrologers, were not god's messengers because of their dabblings in the occult.
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I_love_Jeff
Mp- This question is geared toward the Jehovah's Witnesses. I have a very good understanding of the historical meaning of the magi and know they were not influenced by satan. There were two types of Magi- the God-fearing Magi and the non God fearing Magi. Zoroastrianism is an interesting subject in itself but these particular Magi in the Bk of Daniel were most likely God-fearing people and not pratitioners of of sorcery.