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there will always be good families that produce bad kids and.
bad families that produce good kids - call it genes or reincarnation.
nevertheless, it should be evident to all that the.
Metatron,
Great points. Having raised 4 kids as a jw, I really know some of the shortcomings of the WTBS teaching and of the local congregations.
There is nothing-zip-zero for the kids. Just a completely weird way of life.
Forget sports, or any extra-curricular activities.
Don't bother trying to get good grades to go to colleges. No, you should be a full-time recruiter for the WT.
OH! And this one: don't believe anything your science and history books tell you that conflicts with the bible. It's all under Satan's control!
I DO feel guilt for having attempted to force this bologna down their throats.
IMO, the teachings of the WT are anachronistic and don't have any application to life today.
I could go on and on and on . . .
Patio
when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her.
body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.. young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.. if they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the.
permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed.. the bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place.
i love the book lists on amazon; i get lost in them for hours.
recently someone asked me for book recommendations, and i thought it would be fun if we shared our lists of top ten books that helped us think our way out of the jw dogma.
im putting aside the obvious ones, like crisis of conscience and apocalypse delayed.. heres my list, in the order i discovered them as best i can recall.. ginny.
Great topic! Here's mine in no particular order:
1. The Postman by David Bruin (the book only--the movie ruined it). Post-WW3 living and survival. Made me question the position of neutrality of jws.
2. Not without My Daughter by Betty Mahmoody. An inspiring book--again the movie wasn't equal.
3. Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. An easy book about the history of all societies.
4. The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins. An education in evolution.
5. For fun, Honk and Holler Open Soon by Betty Letts. A charming book about really nice ordinary folks.
6. The Alienist and Dark Angel by Caleb Carr. Really entertaining period pieces about crime solving at the turn of century in New York.
7. The Partner by John Grisham. One of his best.
8. Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Nivens--another apocalyptic survival story that makes you question the rightness of neutrality.
9. Lightning by Dean Koontz. Has time travel and thrills.
10. ? I can't name that many that have helped me come out of jws because it's only been 6 weeks. I'm reading as fast as I can! Of course, CofC, etc.
From Jan Groenveld: "I'd rather go through life with questions I can't answer than with questions I can't ask."
Or I'd rather go thru life with questions I can't answer than with answers I can't question.
Patio
after a transatlantic discussion with my wife we have both reached the conclusion that we will not be posting to this board again.
though we see the board as serving a useful purpose for some, it does not at present suit the path that we have chosen to walk to extract ourselves from the wts.. this board is in an invaluable place for those of you who have recently left the wts and need a place to stretch your wings and share you hurt and pain.
but once we learn to fly, it seems important that we should leave the nest as quickly as possible, lest we become caught in a vacuum between the wts and real life.
hey y'all,.
my husband & i will be in grapevine (right near dallas [so they say]).
this weekend, fri, sat & sun., for a business seminar.
with all the confrontation/negativity on the board these last few weeks, maybe we all need to sit back and have a drink, or a cup of tea or coffee, if alcohol's not for you.. seriously, i'm not trying to pretend that i haven't gotten caught up in the negativity at times, or trivialize important issues/feelings, but things haven't been as fun, lately.
i've noticed a change even in the short time i've been posting.
i didn't start this topic to point fingers or to act like my opinion is somehow special, but wouldn't it be nice for all of us to see an increase in civility?.
Well, I just started on this DB about a month or so ago and I really like it. I've looked at others and this is my favorite.
I agree with ZazuWitts about just passing over the threads where they're arguing. And some posters seem to be red flags right away. But some of the confrontations are very entertaining and informative.
Two thumbs up!
Patio
perhaps the first widely distributed book written by a former witness about the watchtower society is, thirty years a watch tower slave by william j. schnell, baker book house, grand rapids, mi, 1956. its been out of print for several years, and very few libraries still have the book.
schnell was born in 1905, and was part of the watchtower movement from 1921 to 1954. .
in part, the foreword reads: by the lords grace i am a christian.
sunday mornings are now my most favorite day of the week.. it used to be that i'd get up early and prepare for service or study my wt.
yep, i was one who had her wt highlighted in several colors and had scriptures jotted in the margins.
if i didn't have it underlined, i felt guilty.
How true that is. I too was one who had studied so well.
But now I too enjoy the same leisurely weekends as everyone else and spend time with the grandchildren.
One morning about 2 months ago, i 'ditched' meeting and took the grandkidlets to the beach instead. It was quite an eye opener. I thought how much more everyone benefitted from that than from making them sit through 2 hours of droning drivel.
I also once remember a sister commenting on the way out of the KH, "Why can't we EVER have an interesting Sunday talk?"
Patio