Posts by patio34

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To KILL or Not to KILL?

by Amazing in

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a tough question: to kill or not to kill?

this is a very tough question because there can be so many variables, so many views, so many things to consider, so many circumstances, so many beliefs.

do we kill as we do any of this?.

patio34

Hi Amazing,

Mea culpa :(

The reason for the inaccuracy in my post was that I skimmed yours. Apology proffered.

Thanks for the correction.

Pat

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Ashamed

by Marvin Shilmer in

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but whoever has this worlds means for supporting life and beholds his brother having need and yet shuts the door of his tender compassions upon him, in what way does the love of god remain in him?

little children, let us love, neither in word nor with the tongue, but in deed and truth.1 john 3:17-18 nwt .

you must love your neighbor as yourselfmatt 22:39 nwt.

Thanks Marvin for the info. It's a mistake to link the WTS with any charitable tendencies. It rings true and in line with the aloofness of the WTS. What a contrast with almost everyone else on the news . . .

Pat

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Any Atheist Hijackers?

by patio34 in

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greetings and felicitations,.

just a quick thought: would an atheist ever be a suicide hijacker/bomber?

i think not, because an atheist would not believe they would be in heaven/paradise, etc.

patio34

Hi all,

Have been 'away' (watching grandkidlets) and didn't babysit my thread. Sorry!

Good comments. i didn't have a really firm opinion on it and feel more enlightened as to Castro and some communist fanatics.

Pat

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The JW's are going to use this disaster

by WildHorses in

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i saw this on the wol forum.. http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000162

patio34

NYT,

Wake up and smell the coffee! People do have questions, but NOT for JWs. People in general don't give a hoot what JWs think, and especially their version/interpretation of the Bible.

Only people who are naive and uneducated even listen.

Be honest, how many people listen to JWs at the doors? JWs are a pesky little group of fanatics in most people's opinions.

Pat

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To KILL or Not to KILL?

by Amazing in

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a tough question: to kill or not to kill?

this is a very tough question because there can be so many variables, so many views, so many things to consider, so many circumstances, so many beliefs.

do we kill as we do any of this?.

patio34

Hi Amazing,

I am not amenable to any 'commandments' from the Bible. There's as much if not more ruthless murdering in that book than in modern times.

As stated by JW72, religion can be the cause of war. To then frame retaliation in such a bad light as 'revenge' is irresponsible.

What do you suggest: that the U.S. waits in fear for another attack? Then, will it still be revenge? Your way leads to extinction.

Please don't drag the Bible into it with all its aggressive genocide.

Pat

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Any Atheist Hijackers?

by patio34 in

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greetings and felicitations,.

just a quick thought: would an atheist ever be a suicide hijacker/bomber?

i think not, because an atheist would not believe they would be in heaven/paradise, etc.

patio34

Greetings and Felicitations,

Just a quick thought: would an atheist ever be a suicide hijacker/bomber? I think not, because an atheist would not believe they would be in heaven/paradise, etc. after giving up their life.

Any thoughts?

Pat

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WT HAS TO GIVE FINAL WITNESS WHEN END COMES

by D wiltshire in

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wt has to give final witness when end comes.

(a heavy message of doom from jehavhs organization).

*** re 233-4 32 god's anger brought to a finish ***.

patio34

Thanks for that revolting piece of diatribe from the WT and Bible. Gave me a flashback, but I've repressed most of it.

Ugh.

Pat

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Society's Press Release about the tragedy

by Esmeralda in

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chasson posted this in another thread, and i think it should be brought to the forefront.

thank you, chasson for showing us all this link.. typical society response to tragedy.

so three people got out and got to brooklyn.

patio34

Julien, Larc, Messenger, Bridgette, etc., my commendations for your patience with the likes of "theWiz, NYtelecom, etc.

IMHO, it's a given that the WTBS and its people are, as they freely admit, "no part of the world." So, of course, they would not join the likes of Red Cross and other organizations. They stand aloof and pray for 6 billion people to be destroyed.

So, how really affected can they be by the deaths of all those 'worldly' people? It's not even worth discussing, their record speaks for itself.

Pat

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What I heard the JW's say in light of this tragedy

by Bridgette in

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okay, i know (or want to believe) that not all jehovah's witnesses are this calloused.

at least i hope not.

there are some good, caring people, but here are some stark contrasts i've observed today that remind me of how glad i am that i'm not part of such an overall unloving group of people.

patio34

Bridgette, good points and I concur. StifflersSlayerLayerBrother (close?), that's a good way of putting it: JWs 'leech' off this.

I can just hear the wheels turning trying to turn this into a 'witness' (read recruiting opportunity). They don't really care, because isn't their god going to do much worse at the big A?

Pat

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Blood, Deceit, Watchtower, Pirie

by hawkaw in

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to uphold its position on banning certain blood transfusions, the watchtower society has taken liberties with written presentations from early scientists, the clergy and other authors.

one that stands out is alexander pirie.

this blessing is very important, deut.

patio34

Hi Hawkaw,

Incredible work! But actually, I've only glanced at it. Will be printing it out tomorrow. Got Grandkids crawling all over me now!

Will comment more.

Pat