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  organization obsesion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why are you guys so obsessed with organizations?

  there has to be order in the world and organised people!

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  flamegrilled

  I'm not obsessed with guns. People who own guns and who lobby for unrestricted gun rights and usage undoubtedly spend a lot more time thinking about guns than I do. I don't even mind guns in their proper place.

  But I do spend a certain amount of time thinking about the damage that guns in the hands of wrong people do. Likely I would even develop a certain level of obsession if the unrestricted use of guns had caused serious harm to myself and/or those close to me.

  Similarly I am not as obsessed with this particular organization – JWorg – as are the people who are a part of it. But when people are hurt by it I can understand that it's hard for those people just to ignore the issue.

  It sounds to me like Richard C B is likely the equivalent of a gun-toting twat who can't for the life of him understand why people who have been victims of gun violence might have a certain interest in the issue.

  P.S. As I say I am not against guns per se, even though I wouldn't want one. So hopefully those who are sensible gun enthusiasts will understand the limitations of my analogy.
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  Circuit Overseer Guidelines (tg-E) October 2015

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  circuit overseer guidelines (tg-e) october 2015. http://bit.ly/1utgizt.

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  Thanks for this. If there was ever a way to get a hold of "Instructions for Convention Chairman (S-329)", as referred to in 7:8 of this document, I'm sure that would be very interesting to many.
  
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  A great suggestion from a current Bethelite on the chopping block

  by Gilbeath Haaraloth in

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  2. beliefs

  a very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.

  although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.

  he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.

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  That's funny cos I was reading through this thread thinking I should post that DJS is an ass. But he beat me to it.
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  A True short story

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ____a true story___.

  shortly after the incident, i drove back along the pacific coast in a euphoric daze of confusion, tears, and exhilaration; there was no place for it to go inside my head.

  i pulled over on the shoulder of the road and sat in stunned silence.

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  I really enjoyed that Terry. Very nicely done.
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  Evolution and Atheism - please help

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not being familiar with either, my question is:.

  what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.

  i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..

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  Understanding evolution increased my awe of God.

  I'm aware some people will mock that, but the more I read the clearer the answers to other questions became.

  The marvel of the laws that have been put in place to guide the evolutionary process, and the results we observe, are way more impressive to consider than a creator just molding finished products from other matter IMO.
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  Talk on "Reaching Out"-Only What BOE Thinks Matters

  by Simon Templar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for the “living as christians” section of the workbook, “are you reaching out?” talk (15 min), the bethelite gave this talk at the meeting.

  he totally departed from the subject matter which is the watchtower of september 15, 2014, pages 3-6. he was so far off the reservation, it wasn't funny.

  here are a few highlights of what was said: 1) if any brother asked why they haven’t been appointed, and wants to know if there is a problem or condition that exists, that brother is too “presumptuous” and therefore, can’t be used.

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  Per what TheOldHippie said - we also had exactly the same three points said by the speaker. There must have been some "behind the scenes" outline.
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  My boyfriend is thinking of becoming reinstated

  by gypsyvine in

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  2. relationships

  i'm not really sure where to post this.. i've been with my boyfriend for 4 months now and i've really never been happier.

  i was brought up in the church of christ with an elder father and i really believe in my religion, although i will admit to being a lousy christian at times due to sheer laziness (not wanting to get out of bed on sunday).

  my boyfriend essentially lives with me.

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  I came here because I am not a JW and I needed advice from people who know more about it than me. Not to ask strangers for advice..

  
  

  I phrased that clumsily in my post I will admit. All I'm saying is that you've got people here say "you should do ..." "I would hate to see [such and such] happen to you", etc.

  The reality is that most of these people will forget you exist once they move to another thread. It's just an internet forum. I know you know that, but people throw advice around on life changing issues like this as if it's confetti.

  I wouldn't have even commented except that at least I've been through a personal situation where there were at least some similarities with the place your BF is in. He's the guy you need to talk to. And the questions are like a lot of difficult relationship questions - what's his commitment to you? what will happen if he has to choose between you and his status with someone or something else (in this case JW's)?

  I hope things work out for you.
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  My boyfriend is thinking of becoming reinstated

  by gypsyvine in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm not really sure where to post this.. i've been with my boyfriend for 4 months now and i've really never been happier.

  i was brought up in the church of christ with an elder father and i really believe in my religion, although i will admit to being a lousy christian at times due to sheer laziness (not wanting to get out of bed on sunday).

  my boyfriend essentially lives with me.

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  Seems to be a lot of people making assumptions about your boyfriend and his mum.

  Although some are giving you good things to look out for, there are a lot of variables that could lead to some bad advice.

  Personally I feel that if you are asking a bunch of strangers whether you should get out of a relationship, then you've probably already answered your own question.

  However I'd like to address to point about him being duplicitous. A lot of people on this site have had to be duplicitous at one time or another in order to manage their situation in relation to the organization of JWs. I think it would be hypocritical of most to judge your BF on that basis.

  And as far as his mother, I have the most dyed-in-the-wool JW mother you could ever expect. She would shun me if the org told her to. However she was perfectly prepared to see me hitched with someone who was not a JW if that's what I decided to do at one stage in my life. She might have hoped for her to become a JW, but her support in that particular case was not conditional.

  So it's really hard for someone else to make these judgments for you, although many will no doubt throw their hats into the ring.

  If you decide to stay with him it will be complicated. That much I can certainly agree with. But then many relationships are complicated, and people work them out. It all depends what you want.
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  New "most frustratingly addictive game ever" to play - agar.io

  by Simon in

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  2. entertainment

  one of my kids got me hooked on this.

  it's incredibly simple but also kind of fun and addictive.. you start as a small cell and need to eat things to grow.

  that's pretty much the game.. of course as you get bigger you can eat smaller cells too ... and bigger ones can eat you.. as you get bigger you get slower but you can "eject mass" to shrink and speed you up (w key).

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  If you enjoy this then "Osmos HD" might be up your street also (Android). A little less manic. Very serene playing with headphones. And some great variants in play. Hopefully there is a still a free version to try out. It was one of the few games on Android that I upgraded to paid version and really got my money's worth.

  Not sure if available for iOS too.
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  Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

  by Dissonant15 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

  i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

  "if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

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  Dissonant15 - if you are looking for responses I've found it's better to get fully informed on all aspects of what's wrong with the doctrine rather than be armed with an answer to a single illustration.

  
  

  Some good resources have already been listed, but I would add these that I found particularly helpful and comprehensive:

  
  

  http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.ca/2010/09/wtsblooddoctrine.html

  
  

  http://meletivivlon.com/2013/09/10/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-no-blood-doctrine/