Regarding the OP I think there must have been something in the outline because our speaker also said something like "no organization leads to salvation, only faith in Jesus can do that". I was pretty gobsmacked to be honest.
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Very Weird Experience During Recent Special Talk After Memorial
by Tenacious inhesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.
whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.
he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.
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Start A Butterfly Garden!
by Bonsai intime to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
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@FindtheLost
How do you put out the grape jelly for the Orioles? They do come around, but very rarely and I would love to attract them. My concern is that we'll attract wasps, since we already have to take measures to deal with those each summer. Bees are fine of course and I'll do anything to help them. But is there a feeder that's good to feed Orioles with grape jelly without adding to our wasp problem?
Thanks in advance,
FG
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before you put this week's wt away, look at page 3.--
by prologos inpage 3 or any other side, foot notes and share them.
bored today i looked at page 3 and 2 of the 4 elated willing offerings really looked peeved, simone and eston, even if you serve in a vacation destination, paradise, reality will set in, and it will show as in this telling picture.
and: page 22, it is downhill all the way.
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Funny observations. There was one JW broadcast a while back when the family were all lined up and the mum was telling the story about the son who sold the cow, and the looks on the faces of the siblings were priceless. -
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organization obsesion
by Richard C B inwhy are you guys so obsessed with organizations?
there has to be order in the world and organised people!
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I'm not obsessed with guns. People who own guns and who lobby for unrestricted gun rights and usage undoubtedly spend a lot more time thinking about guns than I do. I don't even mind guns in their proper place.
But I do spend a certain amount of time thinking about the damage that guns in the hands of wrong people do. Likely I would even develop a certain level of obsession if the unrestricted use of guns had caused serious harm to myself and/or those close to me.
Similarly I am not as obsessed with this particular organization – JWorg – as are the people who are a part of it. But when people are hurt by it I can understand that it's hard for those people just to ignore the issue.
It sounds to me like Richard C B is likely the equivalent of a gun-toting twat who can't for the life of him understand why people who have been victims of gun violence might have a certain interest in the issue.
P.S. As I say I am not against guns per se, even though I wouldn't want one. So hopefully those who are sensible gun enthusiasts will understand the limitations of my analogy.
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Circuit Overseer Guidelines (tg-E) October 2015
by wifibandit incircuit overseer guidelines (tg-e) october 2015. http://bit.ly/1utgizt.
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Thanks for this. If there was ever a way to get a hold of "Instructions for Convention Chairman (S-329)", as referred to in 7:8 of this document, I'm sure that would be very interesting to many.
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A great suggestion from a current Bethelite on the chopping block
by Gilbeath Haaraloth ina very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.
although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.
he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.
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That's funny cos I was reading through this thread thinking I should post that DJS is an ass. But he beat me to it. -
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A True short story
by Terry in____a true story___.
shortly after the incident, i drove back along the pacific coast in a euphoric daze of confusion, tears, and exhilaration; there was no place for it to go inside my head.
i pulled over on the shoulder of the road and sat in stunned silence.
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Evolution and Atheism - please help
by Fernando innot being familiar with either, my question is:.
what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.
i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..
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Understanding evolution increased my awe of God.
I'm aware some people will mock that, but the more I read the clearer the answers to other questions became.
The marvel of the laws that have been put in place to guide the evolutionary process, and the results we observe, are way more impressive to consider than a creator just molding finished products from other matter IMO.
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Talk on "Reaching Out"-Only What BOE Thinks Matters
by Simon Templar infor the “living as christians” section of the workbook, “are you reaching out?” talk (15 min), the bethelite gave this talk at the meeting.
he totally departed from the subject matter which is the watchtower of september 15, 2014, pages 3-6. he was so far off the reservation, it wasn't funny.
here are a few highlights of what was said: 1) if any brother asked why they haven’t been appointed, and wants to know if there is a problem or condition that exists, that brother is too “presumptuous” and therefore, can’t be used.
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Per what TheOldHippie said - we also had exactly the same three points said by the speaker. There must have been some "behind the scenes" outline. -
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My boyfriend is thinking of becoming reinstated
by gypsyvine ini'm not really sure where to post this.. i've been with my boyfriend for 4 months now and i've really never been happier.
i was brought up in the church of christ with an elder father and i really believe in my religion, although i will admit to being a lousy christian at times due to sheer laziness (not wanting to get out of bed on sunday).
my boyfriend essentially lives with me.
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I came here because I am not a JW and I needed advice from people who know more about it than me. Not to ask strangers for advice..
I phrased that clumsily in my post I will admit. All I'm saying is that you've got people here say "you should do ..." "I would hate to see [such and such] happen to you", etc.
The reality is that most of these people will forget you exist once they move to another thread. It's just an internet forum. I know you know that, but people throw advice around on life changing issues like this as if it's confetti.
I wouldn't have even commented except that at least I've been through a personal situation where there were at least some similarities with the place your BF is in. He's the guy you need to talk to. And the questions are like a lot of difficult relationship questions - what's his commitment to you? what will happen if he has to choose between you and his status with someone or something else (in this case JW's)?
I hope things work out for you.