Posts by redvip2000

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Even if God exists…….

by snare&racket in

i’m an atheist.. let’s assume i am wrong, i am willing to be.. let’s give people a god, let’s even make him the god of the bible…... does he deserve to be worshipped and obeyed?

if so, why does his abhorrent actions not morally make you question allegiance to him?.

does his authority alone allow him to murder and drown and order war, to throw people into a lake of fire?.

redvip2000

Rules for the Creator and for us are different. He created everything and everything belongs to him. We are organisms in a petri dish. The scientist use, discard or experiment to his heart's content. Then he gets rid of it.

yeah but scientists don't use thinking human beings in his experiments. That would be considered criminal.

So if Jellohoba is using humans for an experiment, then he is a monster with no ethical concerns.

Just accept the fact that there is no god. Or if there is, he doesn't give a shit at all.

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Letter from Mother: "...go right ahead on death's road and take your kids with you."

by silentbuddha in

so my jw father is sick.

my mother uses the opportunity to try and preach to my 16 year old daughter.

i simply told my mother to: "please refrain from trying to lure *my daughter* in with jehovah's witness questioning.

redvip2000

Perhaps it doesn't work for everybody, but in my case I keep challenging my mother with facts. My mother is exactly this type as well, perhaps not as combative.

One of the last times she tried to preach to me, I simply told her that according to the Org, the world governments will shut down organized religion and then eventually come after Jdubs. I told her that for this to happen we will need to see freedom of religion be abolished, change in constitutions in many different countries. And that once that happens, at least we'll know the Org will be right about something and I'll consider coming back. Now, of course none of that will happen.

So now, when she tries to preach I simply point to that. That I'm still waiting for this to happen, and this has been effective in pushing back and shutting it down. In her mind, she probably reluctantly admits that those things do need to happen first and they are not happening.

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Is the FACT that no God/god ever communicates with humans evidence that no God/god exists?

by Disillusioned JW in

is the fact that no god/god ever communicates with us evidence that no god/god exists?

i think it is very strong evidence that no personal god/god exits, especially a benevolent god who wants humans to know him him/her/it, to obey him/her/it, and/or to love him/her/it.

since no god/god communicates to us (including those who sincerely want communication with the/a god/god), wouldn't it be sensible for those who pray to what they believe is the/a god/god to cease all efforts to communicate to a god/god?

redvip2000

Is the FACT that no God/god ever communicates with us evidence that no God/god exists?

Not really. If can also mean he doens't give a shit about us. In either case, why should we can about a god that either doesn't exist, or doesn't care to do a single helpful thing to help anybody ever?

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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?

by pistolpete in

you have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.

moses, samuel, abraham, etc.

but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.

redvip2000

So if we’re going to ask, “why doesn’t God communicate with us”, you first need to explain why you claim that God doesn’t communicate with humans when a significant number of people do experience communication with God.

The claim that God doesn't communicate with humans is based on the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever. And no, just because some people think that they hear a voice from God, doesn't mean it's true.

You know, somehow when God supposedly speaks to humans he never says anything that will blow our minds. Somehow he can never speak to a scientist to give a cure for cancer. Nope, it's all trivial shit, that somehow is rattling around in people's minds already.

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C T Russell's pyramid monument gets taken away by the WTS.

by Rafe in

just recently the stone pyramid monument at c t russell's grave site was taken away by the wts.. six screens of the watchtower did a public discussion about the removal which may be still on that web site, that's where i heard about it.. it had been recently vandalized such the top head piece was removed and the carved christian cross on the monument was chiseled off.. since the wts owns that grave site, they have the right to do whatever they want to do with it.. my guess is that they will never put it back or redo the damage.. i think they will put it away in a obscure place and cover it, locked up somewhere.. the wts.

has never been proud or willingly open about that monument for obvious reasons such as being associated in false religion, which they claim they are not and they admonish other christian faiths are.. your thoughts ?

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redvip2000

It's just so obvious that it was someone associated with the Jdubs that damaged it. Perhaps even the Org itself. They probably wanted to remove the embarrassing pyramid but wanted to excuse to do it.

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PIMO elder

by Reservations in

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i’m reservations, pimo elder.

i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

any ideas?.

redvip2000

She knows there are problems in the WT : pedophiles, money, manipulation .. but she always says "Jehovah will clean congregation at time" ...

Right... and btw, he will also heal the sick and feed the hungry...in time. And all the crime and injustice? yeah...in time.

For now, he has his hands full. He is too busy with....well..huhh nothing. He is doing absolutely nothing now, but it seems he will always do something in the future.

And by the way, what's preventing other religions from saying the same thing? If JWs point out wrongs in other religions why can't they also say...."well God will fix it in time."

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

redvip2000

Most JWs I know just love the carts. You get to "count time", you are "visible in the ministry", but rarely have to actually speak to anyone

When I was still jdub we used to see a few sisters from another congregation who instead of door to door preaching would stand in the train station holding a Watchtower in their hand, waiting for someone to take one.

We used to look down at them, and comment to ourselves that they were lazy, and didn't do the hard work of going door to door. Little did I know that years later, the entire Org would shift the model to exactly that -- standing around all day, except now you don't have need to hold a magazine in your hand.

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Taking The Knee 14 months after George Floyd's death

by LoveUniHateExams in

taking the knee became popular among sportspeople immediately after the death of george floyd in may 2020.. most football (that's soccer to you yanks) players are still taking the knee before matches more than a year later.. what has it achieved?

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what do expect it to achieve in the future?.

redvip2000

I wonder if this 'woke dividing' is an intentional device for a power that wishes to overthrow us?

Bingo....very few realize it.

The kneeling thing is nothing more than boasting. All of these footballers could very well organize a fund where they contribute to build a piece of infrastructure in a poor community.

But all they can do is bend a knee while everybody watches as if that does anything. They just want to be seen doing it.

Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where George puts a dollar in a tip jar, but tries to take it back because he realizes nobody saw him doing it. What is important to him is to be seen doing it.

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Pfizer becomes first Covid vaccine to gain full FDA approval

by PaddyTheBaddy in

great news.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58309254.

pfizer's two-dose covid-19 vaccine has received full approval from the us food and drug administration (fda) - the first jab to be licensed in the nation.. .

the vaccine had initially been given emergency use authorisation.

redvip2000

I got a notice from my employer that every employee must take the vaccine and show proof of vaccination by end of next month.

The whole thing is stupid. I'm not against the vaccine, but again once the vaccine is wide available, we must stop worrying about the people who don't want the vaccine.

People should be allowed to absorb the risk of not taking the vaccine

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YHWH's Magnificent Killing Machine

by fulltimestudent in

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the remains of what may be one of the largest pterosaur's yet found have been discovered in outback queensland.

the palaeontologists that have been examining the discovery describe it as having been a fearsome beast, with a spear -like mouth and a 7 metre wingspan.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/dragon-like-pterosaur-outback-queensland-identified-named/100361038.

for more on australian dinosaurs see this video (also included in the above news story).. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6dquboi_qi&t=36s.

redvip2000

yeah you know how Jellohoba created cheetas with sharp teeth and claws and a body build for chasing, so that they can eat some fine straw.