as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.
the dpi is now taking them off the list.
the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.
Thanks Kent..but don't you think that since the WT will not be listed with the official UN page any longer, that people will think that its just "another apostate" lie?
I'm going to to copy the info. from your page for my in-laws to see but I don't know if they'll buy it.
Mav.-
as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.
the dpi is now taking them off the list.
the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.
Johnniemae:
I think you've been chewin' on a piece of straw hayweed too long.
But thats alright Big Country I don't think you'll get disfellowshipped for that.
as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.
the dpi is now taking them off the list.
the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.
Does this mean that "something" will happen to the WT for registering then getting pulled off or asking to be taken off the DPI list?
Does it really affect them in any way?
by that i mean it's possible aliens could have visited and influenced the earth.. one of the best quotes i heard by someone who had an alien en-counter was that the aliens told them "that they didn't want to show themselves to the world because they didn't want to affect or influence our religions".
what do you think?
that sounds a bit like a prime directive to me, and could be a good reason why the aliens are simply spying on us.
Well not that I exactly believe in aliens , but does anyone any comments on the huge head statues on Easter Is. or the huge spider carved out on the side of a mountain in Peru and all those several thousand year old stuctures around the world that scientist have no clue who or how or why they are?
Always interested me...Hhmm..
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smartie on 8-10-2001 - 8:15pm .
subject: jw's please answer my question .
Yeah your supposed to throw it away (lottery ticket) unless you plan to give the winnings to the WTBTS.
Then they'll make the exception. Go into WT observer and go into the money section and see if you can get a hold of the "Planned Giving" brochure or at least quotes from it. It will make for some interesting reading.
looking at the stats, there are well over 14,000 views of the thread about the un.
the next 'most read' thread is around 9,500 so it is clearly a burning issue.. i wonder if the involvement with the un is the biggest threat to the wts?.
they are getting badly burnt because of their covering up child abuse and www.silentlambs.org is doing a great job of raising the profile of this but even so, i can see the 'mental defense mechanism' of many jws excusing this as 'individuals imperfection'.. they cannot excuse the gb getting in bed with the un.
I personally believe that if the R&F were to find out about this that the WT will use their "logic" to downplay its real meaning.
For example: I remember when I was interrogated by my then C.O. about certain quetions that I was having, he said "Do you think that Jehovah's org. is a stupid one? It's like years ago in Mexico..we weren't called Jw's we were known as a cultural movement. Is that being dishonest? Maybe some may think so but the Bible shows us to be astute. By not calling ourselves Jw's we were able to keep preaching the good news of the Kingdom and save countless lives (he was Mexican). Now we could have called ourselves Jw's but that would have hindered our work and we would have been banned from preaching. So as you can see we must make use of the rules and regulations that are put out by the gov'ts. We have to use their own rules to expand Christ's teachings."
Then he went on and quoted some Proverb about how the astute one will have favor and the stupid one wont or something like that.
Anyway with that kind of lip service the WT will be able to convince most people. They'll say that registering with the UN has opened many doors for them as far as preaching is concerned and that we must make use of the tools given to us by the Gov'ts.
And of course you guys know that that will be enough for about 85% of the Jw's. They'll probably shell out a few article of how being astute in these critically doomed days are the only way for them to save lives.
Oh well.
Mav.-
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smartie on 8-10-2001 - 8:15pm .
subject: jw's please answer my question .
Amazing can explain this point pretty well try and write to him.
http://www.newsday.com/news/obituaries/ny-ny-deathnotice-1082001_18986oct08.story
my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.
jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.
as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.
Kevin, Im sorry for you loss.
Another True PATRIOT has passed and he will be missed.
I'm saluting you both.....
Goodluck and Godspeed Kevin.
.....*..Goodbye Jon....*
the meetings were held in michigan (bibleexaminer), long island (nytelecom), san diego (elder families only), and here in toronto.. the stadium we used is the same we normally use for district conventions.
unlike the dc tho, which is spread over 2 weekends at the stadium, it was packed absolutely full.
it was very hard to find seats anywhere, just a few singles here and there and lots standing in the halls.
I believe that they had originally intended to announce "something" but pulled the plug at the last minute because they now see that their situation is hopeless.
Too many know the truth and too many know too much damning information.
They also know that no matter how much security they try to have an "apostate" will get in and inform the rest.
The cost of holding these meetings at large stadiums and colisseums are very high to just give a few talks and a watchtower summary.
Just my thoughts.
Mav.-
