It takes a big man to apologize JB.
Your alright in my book.
Patriot
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Thoughts on Silent Lambs
by joelbear infirst i would like to make an apology to bill for my questioning his motives.
i do not have enough evidence to make a claim on this point.
i allowed emotion to weigh into this statement rather than clear thinking.. i will stand by my questioning of some of his judgements regarding disclosure of information and how it was presented, although i will temper that by saying that again i am working on limited data.. i try very hard to keep things from getting personal when i disagree with someone's ideas, feeling or thoughts.. in reviewing my posts to him i have determined that i failed to do that on this issue.. joel
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Taliban prisoners in Cuba
by Abaddon indoes this trouble anyone?.
it seems semantic tom-foolery to declare a war on terrorism, and then to say that prisoners of the war are not prisoners of war.. it also seems very suspect keeping them of proper usa soil, as where they are they are out of sight, mind, or appeal by civil-rights factions.. do not get me wrong.. i am not saying, "ah, poor ickle terrorists".. but in a war against terror, surely taking each and every opportunity to distance yourself from your enemies is the wisest and best course of action?.
why do anything that is even remotely dodgy or underhand?.
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Patriot
GODDAMNIT!!!!!
Really who the hell cares? Some of you act like its a God damn crime to take these prisoners to an offshore Prison.
Thats right screw 'em all friggin bastards! Don't you understand that the reason that we're still here is because they don't have the power to stop us?
For crying out loud, what does it matter where the hell they're being held at?
Do any of you think that the Al-queda would be as worried to how we would feel being locked up in their jails?
Do you? Do you think that they'll call the Red-Cross to examine us?
Do you think that they did not rejoice when the towers came down? Do you think that they said: ":lets crash the planes into them at night to get less casualties?
Be glad that you live in a country that allows you to debate this point of view. If you don't like them being off shore then write to your congressman about it or get the hell out of the USA.
Until you've been on the other side of automatic gunfire and sleeping through bombs and flares going off at all hours of the night, your instinct will be to debate these petty issues.
Go into combat and see what these peoples' frame of mind are and you'll be thinking just like I do:
Line 'em all up against the wall and let 'em have it...f**k the blind fold, they can see it coming!@
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Taliban prisoners in Cuba
by Abaddon indoes this trouble anyone?.
it seems semantic tom-foolery to declare a war on terrorism, and then to say that prisoners of the war are not prisoners of war.. it also seems very suspect keeping them of proper usa soil, as where they are they are out of sight, mind, or appeal by civil-rights factions.. do not get me wrong.. i am not saying, "ah, poor ickle terrorists".. but in a war against terror, surely taking each and every opportunity to distance yourself from your enemies is the wisest and best course of action?.
why do anything that is even remotely dodgy or underhand?.
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Patriot
Agree with Seeker 100%
I'll tell you this Abaddon: those captured and brought to Cuba are being treated like royalty compared to what we would get treated if it were the other way around.
Trust me...Don't noooooobody what to be held up in an Afganistanian prison. So don't worry to much about them,they'll be alright.
Mav.- ....Whose been there and done that!
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Okay Fess Up: What's Your Handle Mean?
by Mindchild inokay fess up: whats your handle mean?.
my handle: mindchild comes from computer scientist and futurist dr. hans moravec: who wrote the book, the future of robot and human intelligence which is a book about when we will be able to construct machines capable of human intelligence and raises the possibility of uploading ourselves (every thought we ever had) into an android body much superior to the human ones we have now.
i entertain the hope that not only will i live long enough to see this happen, i will transfer myself (the complete essence of what is me) into a body of my own choosing and become immortal if i so choose.
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Patriot
Have always felt a sense of duty..jobs never done..have to keep going even if it means dying.
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Photographer arrested at Ground Zero
by Patriot inny times photographer arrested at ground zero.
by associated press .
"new york, jan. 12 a photographer from the new york times was arrested at ground zero and charged with criminal trespass, police said.
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Patriot
Come now Freddy play nice.
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Photographer arrested at Ground Zero
by Patriot inny times photographer arrested at ground zero.
by associated press .
"new york, jan. 12 a photographer from the new york times was arrested at ground zero and charged with criminal trespass, police said.
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NY Times photographer arrested at ground zero
By Associated Press
"NEW YORK, Jan. 12 – A photographer from The New York Times was arrested at ground zero and charged with criminal trespass, police said.
Edward Keating was arrested Friday evening. Police said he was in the north pit and was seen taking photographs of rescue workers removing victim remains.
Keating had no prior approval to be in the area, and his press card had expired, said Michael O'Looney, deputy commissioner of public information for the NYPD.The photographer also had a pass that allowed only legitimate workers to be in the area, and authorities were investigating how he got it, O'Looney said.
Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis said the matter was being looked into. She said Keating had been at ground zero on prior occasions.
Keating was given a desk-appearance ticket and released, police said."
I wanted to post this to keep proving my point of how NOONE IS ALLOWED INTO GZ!! So please do not believe the experiences going around of Jws preaching to the workers on the debris field.
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Corruption within the elder ranks!
by JohnSteadman ini have been serving as a presiding overseer in the united kingdom for over 20 years, in my time i have seen the organisation develop and grow both spiritually and financially.
i have seen elders come and go but more so than any other time i have witnessed lies and cover ups from elders, co's, bethel members which have caused me great upset.
i do not wish to go into any details but would like to warn people of the dishonesty that has become jehovah's organisation.
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Patriot
Welcome John,
ALtough most of us here are aware of the corruption in the WT we would like to hear your detailed experiences.
There are many former elders and P.O.s here who would no doubt fell better knowing that others are going through the same and might be able to help.
If you do not want to give your experiences yet as a P.O. at least start making copies of the letters in your files that prove your case.
If not sometime in the future you can be accused of Apostacy and have nothing to defend yourself with.
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fruit haulers
by rekless inthe watchtower bible tract society of florida,inc.
is a certified citrus fruit shipper for florida orange growers.. now this is not illegal at all but does the average rank and file know this, they were inc. in 1986 i was active at that time, there was never any mention of this activity to my knowledge.. this is what gets me...how in the world can the wtbts do things like this and nobody ever finds out about it through the society.. please clue me in!!
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From what I understood, years ago when the WT use to have food at the District conventions, it was cheaper for them to haul their own fruit across the Canadian and Mexican border.
But in order to do that they had to be registered as a certified hauler.
Today however I don't know the reason why they would continue unless for the obvious reason of not wanting to give up the $$ that it brings into their cause.
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Who is the President of the WTS?
by Ivor Hope inhow many jws know the name of their current president?.
everyone knows about russell, rutherford, knorr and franz.
most know about henschel but i haven't come across any that know the name of the current pres.. i believe it's don adams - and he doesn't even claim to be one of the "remnant"!
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Patriot
No Erich, Its a sign that they are trying to sheild themselves from any possible lawsuits.
Think about it, if you want to sue the WT for allowing your little brother to die because of its stupid rules on blood, who would you sue now?
All these corporations will claim that they handle different tasks unrelated to that. By the time you're able to pin someone down, they would have created a new corp. with new leaders.
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Global Stop on all Kingdom Hall Building Work!
by Ivor Hope ini have heard today from 2 different sources that the wts has announced a global stop on all building work.
kingdom halls already being built are having the work on them stopped.. has anybody else heard this?
if it is true, what could be the reason.
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Patriot
How yoo doin' Ivor,
How about telling us what your 2 sources are?
That might help some of us who are more aware of ongoing WT proposals to look into that calim and check its validity.
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